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New 777-300ER (77W) F/C/PY/Y Seating (consolidated)

New 777-300ER (77W) F/C/PY/Y Seating (consolidated)

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Old Jul 11, 19, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer View Post
Interesting, did not know that. Did the newer 2-4-3 also come with shell seating, or the newer reclining model?

I have seen 3-4-3 on Frankfurt and London as well. Not sure if they were subbed.
I think shell as well but have never flown on the newest 77Ws so will let someone else confirm. The 3-4-3 77Ws (JA778A - JA783A) usually stay on NRT-SFO/LAX/IAH but they show up on IAD and ORD pretty often as well. Would be surprised to see them on FRA and LHR since those are 68J routes but the 3-4-3 planes are 52J so must have been a last-minute sub.
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Old Jul 11, 19, 9:26 pm
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Ana actually provides a lot of info online (though I'm not sure if any have been refurbished with new seats/layout after being in service)

https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/internat...7_300er_1.html
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shows 264 and new 212 is 3-3-3
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250 and old 212 is 2-4-3

https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/servicei.../guide/y/seat/

Shows 264 is recliner, 250 and old 212 is shell, new 212 is slim recliner
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Old Jul 12, 19, 1:42 am
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Originally Posted by seanmh View Post
Ditto. Does anyone know if they've hinted at a rollout schedule for the other routes?
They've not, the only route info has been HND-LHR starting every second day and then toggling to daily.
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Old Jul 12, 19, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by nexusCFX View Post
SFO-NRT in F in late November for me. Also not optimistic since the flight is shorter than those from the east coast. Hopefully we get an idea of the rollout plan soon.
Nice, my wife and I are doing SFO-NRT in late November as well and I'd love a giant 43" 4k tv for the ride!
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Old Jul 12, 19, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by nexusCFX View Post
SFO-NRT in F in late November for me. Also not optimistic since the flight is shorter than those from the east coast. Hopefully we get an idea of the rollout plan soon.
Originally Posted by Kchao1213 View Post
Will be flying F IAH-NRT-IAH in late May 2020...any wild guesses whether the updated cabin will be rolled out to that route by then?
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Nice, my wife and I are doing SFO-NRT in late November as well and I'd love a giant 43" 4k tv for the ride!
Since this will be a 64 J 212 seat configuration, look for the routes currently operated by the 68J 212 seat configuration for a decent indicator of what route goes first.
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Old Jul 12, 19, 4:30 pm
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Dang, seems like the only US routes with this configuration are JFK-HND and NRT-JFK.
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Old Jul 12, 19, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Kchao1213 View Post
Dang, seems like the only US routes with this configuration are JFK-HND and NRT-JFK.
maybe my next years JFK-HND and NRT-JFK will have the new first

but why was the airplane referred to as 64j and 212 Y as the JFK-Tokyo flight has me 8 F too
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Old Jul 12, 19, 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by blitzen View Post


maybe my next years JFK-HND and NRT-JFK will have the new first

but why was the airplane referred to as 64j and 212 Y as the JFK-Tokyo flight has me 8 F too
Because they all have 8F. If we referred to the 8F version of the 77W it would be remarkably tricky to know which specific configuration we were referring to.

And PS not 212 Y, 212 total seat count.
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Old Jul 12, 19, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer View Post
Because they all have 8F. If we referred to the 8F version of the 77W it would be remarkably tricky to know which specific configuration we were referring to.

And PS not 212 Y, 212 total seat count.
thanks for clearing that up for me ( and raising my hopes for the new F)
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Old Jul 13, 19, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by paperwastage View Post
Do u have more info on this rule? Interested to know why
Earlier ETOPS rules required a period of time for each plane to prove that its engines were reliable before being ETOPS certified.

There have been many instances if the ETOPS rules being relaxed.
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Old Jul 13, 19, 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer View Post
Since this will be a 64 J 212 seat configuration, look for the routes currently operated by the 68J 212 seat configuration for a decent indicator of what route goes first.
Another indicator would be the routes with Hibiki 21, LHR, FRA and JFK.
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Old Jul 13, 19, 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by roberto99 View Post
Earlier ETOPS rules required a period of time for each plane to prove that its engines were reliable before being ETOPS certified.

There have been many instances if the ETOPS rules being relaxed.
So then A380 doesn’t apply in ETOPS case because its 4 engine aircraft?
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Old Jul 13, 19, 9:29 am
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So then A380 doesn’t apply in ETOPS case because its 4 engine aircraft?
ETOPS stands for Extended TWIN-engine Operations.
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Old Jul 13, 19, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by roberto99 View Post
Earlier ETOPS rules required a period of time for each plane to prove that its engines were reliable before being ETOPS certified.

There have been many instances if the ETOPS rules being relaxed.
Thanks for the ETOPS connection. I think I found it (link):
PROPOSED NEW PART 135 APPENDIX H

B. CERTIFICATE HOLDER EXPERIENCE PRIOR TO CONDUCTING ETOPS


Safety is enhanced when, prior to conducting ETOPS, a certificate holder gains operational experience in the type of airplane capable of ETOPS, and with the operational environment typically encountered on longer range flights (up to 180 minutes) in areas where airports available for an enroute diversion are limited. Typically, this involves prior operational experience on overwater flights to international areas of operation in accordance with part 135.Operators requesting authority to operate ETOPS would have to show operating experience on international routes with a transport category turbine powered airplane. For this particular case, experience with international operations does not include operations from the 48 contiguous States to Canada and Mexico. This experience can only be obtained on extended flight operations that involve oceanic crossings.

A minimum 12 months operating experience is required. The proposal allows for up to 6 months credit toward the 12-month requirement for those operators that were certificated under part 135 or part 121 prior to the effective date of this rule. Additionally, for operators with previous ETOPS experience with other airplane types may have that experience credited in whole, or in part to the 12 month experience requirement.
So it only applies to aircraft types that are new to the carrier, not individual aircraft. The conversation covered deliveries of a type already present in the fleet, as well as the introduction of a new type so I must've misunderstood the application of the rule.
It does explain why ANA's A380 did not have to adhere to it and it also explains why BA is avoiding the US with its A350s so far. VS otoh do get to fly their shiny new A350 to JFK, though. So who knows!
In any case, I was wrong to bring it up in the context of this thread because it clearly doesn't apply to the 77W for ANA.
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Old Jul 13, 19, 10:03 pm
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Btw,the J seat should be the zodiac/safran fusio

https://skift.com/2015/04/15/the-sea...rst-class/amp/
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