AS' Membership in the oneworld Alliance - Benefits, Policies and Problems
Oct 14, 2021, 1:51 pm
#196
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MCE type seating (economy with extra leg room) is only offered by a few airlines. A few rows with exit seats for the rest. Premium Economy is a different class, just as is business class
The AA MCE seating is not a OW benefit. But an AS-AA agreement. AA used to offer MCE to OW mid-top status, but that was withdrawn some time ago. After a few weeks it was reinstated only for AA JV's partners (BA IB JL).
OW mid/top status has the OW benefit of "Access to preferred or pre-reserved seating*".
https://www.oneworld.com/travel-benefits#benefits
What that is in reality is different for each airline. I have never seen anything in writing what each airline defines as " preferred or pre-reserved seating*". For example QF does not include exit row seating as preferred.
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Oct 14, 2021 at 2:07 pm
Oct 14, 2021, 3:01 pm
#197
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SFO
Programs: AS 75K (OW), SK Silver (*A), UR, MR
Posts: 3,347
And if they are on separate reservations, I don’t get free access to the SFO lounge, but if they are on the same, I do because it’s an international itinerary.
I suppose you could reserve SFO-HEL on the AY website since I'll be specifying the AS FF anyway, but what if there's no east coast layover and I miss out on maximizing the AS 1.5 EQM?
Oct 14, 2021, 4:38 pm
#198
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True. But picture your SFO-JFK AS flight arriving at 6p and your JFK-HEL AY flight leaving 10p. What if the former is late and I miss the connection?
And if they are on separate reservations, I don’t get free access to the SFO lounge, but if they are on the same, I do because it’s an international itinerary.
I suppose you could reserve SFO-HEL on the AY website since I'll be specifying the AS FF anyway, but what if there's no east coast layover and I miss out on maximizing the AS 1.5 EQM?
And if they are on separate reservations, I don’t get free access to the SFO lounge, but if they are on the same, I do because it’s an international itinerary.
I suppose you could reserve SFO-HEL on the AY website since I'll be specifying the AS FF anyway, but what if there's no east coast layover and I miss out on maximizing the AS 1.5 EQM?
I don’t see how this is going to work… I know AS is selling QF/AA codeshares. But not AY unless I am missing something.
Oct 14, 2021, 7:41 pm
#199
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Executive Club, Aeroplan
Posts: 196
Hi All!
I've searched in here but couldn't find anything - I have oneworld sapphire status, and i'm looking at booking a AS saver fare. Would I be able to access the elite/oneworld elite seating, or simply have the saver fare seating? I had a look when making a dummy booking and it looked like only the saver seats, but I didn't know if the elite status kicked in after booking or at any other time.
Also (sorry, just popped into my head!) if I book an AS flight with Avios, can I select the elite seating at the time of booking?
Thanks for any help/advice!
I've searched in here but couldn't find anything - I have oneworld sapphire status, and i'm looking at booking a AS saver fare. Would I be able to access the elite/oneworld elite seating, or simply have the saver fare seating? I had a look when making a dummy booking and it looked like only the saver seats, but I didn't know if the elite status kicked in after booking or at any other time.
Also (sorry, just popped into my head!) if I book an AS flight with Avios, can I select the elite seating at the time of booking?
Thanks for any help/advice!
Oct 14, 2021, 8:32 pm
#200
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,281
Hi All!
I've searched in here but couldn't find anything - I have oneworld sapphire status, and i'm looking at booking a AS saver fare. Would I be able to access the elite/oneworld elite seating, or simply have the saver fare seating? I had a look when making a dummy booking and it looked like only the saver seats, but I didn't know if the elite status kicked in after booking or at any other time.
Also (sorry, just popped into my head!) if I book an AS flight with Avios, can I select the elite seating at the time of booking?
Thanks for any help/advice!
I've searched in here but couldn't find anything - I have oneworld sapphire status, and i'm looking at booking a AS saver fare. Would I be able to access the elite/oneworld elite seating, or simply have the saver fare seating? I had a look when making a dummy booking and it looked like only the saver seats, but I didn't know if the elite status kicked in after booking or at any other time.
Also (sorry, just popped into my head!) if I book an AS flight with Avios, can I select the elite seating at the time of booking?
Thanks for any help/advice!
2. You will be able to book elite seating at time of booking using avios
Oct 15, 2021, 12:43 am
#202
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Oct 15, 2021, 11:38 am
#205
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 100K
Posts: 2,030
Dec 6, 2021, 8:59 pm
#206
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: Alaska 100K - MM, defender of shoes on the carpeted bulkhead 4ever, AA LT PLT, Hyatt Glob, HH Dia
Posts: 7,447
Am on AA-BA ticket, BA does not recognize my OW Emerald status and is asking me to pay for my seat selection. Any work arounds? I need to scant number of miles to make it to 100K so uncomfortable changing out the number to my AA number, but that may be the only way.
Do I need to call? BA is crap when it comes to working with people on the phone.
How do AS flyers get their oneworld status recognized?
Do I need to call? BA is crap when it comes to working with people on the phone.
How do AS flyers get their oneworld status recognized?
Dec 6, 2021, 10:05 pm
#207
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Am on AA-BA ticket, BA does not recognize my OW Emerald status and is asking me to pay for my seat selection. Any work arounds? I need to scant number of miles to make it to 100K so uncomfortable changing out the number to my AA number, but that may be the only way.
Do I need to call? BA is crap when it comes to working with people on the phone.
How do AS flyers get their oneworld status recognized?
Do I need to call? BA is crap when it comes to working with people on the phone.
How do AS flyers get their oneworld status recognized?
AS or AA or BA flight number?
AS or AA or BA operated?
Is this a paid ticket? Or award? Basic fares can be problematic.
Were you OWE when the flight was booked?
Many threads on BA selection issues, but with OWE should not be asked to pay.
Dec 6, 2021, 11:37 pm
#208
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: Alaska 100K - MM, defender of shoes on the carpeted bulkhead 4ever, AA LT PLT, Hyatt Glob, HH Dia
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What has AS to do with this? AS status = OW Emerald
AS or AA or BA flight number?
BA
AS or AA or BA operated?
BA
Is this a paid ticket?
Yes and not a basic fare
Or award?
Basic fares can be problematic.
Were you OWE when the flight was booked?
Yes - MVPGold 75K
Many threads on BA selection issues, but with OWE should not be asked to pay.
AS or AA or BA flight number?
BA
AS or AA or BA operated?
BA
Is this a paid ticket?
Yes and not a basic fare
Were you OWE when the flight was booked?
Yes - MVPGold 75K
Many threads on BA selection issues, but with OWE should not be asked to pay.
I know. I should call in the am, but it is nearly impossible to get through
Dec 6, 2021, 11:59 pm
#209
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Try
Dec 7, 2021, 6:57 am
#210
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: Alaska 100K - MM, defender of shoes on the carpeted bulkhead 4ever, AA LT PLT, Hyatt Glob, HH Dia
Posts: 7,447
For a BA marketed BA operated flight the BA forum is the place to ask about seating (cost), The ffp of the OWE should not matter
Try
Try
issue was the leading zeros before my AS number - recognized by AA, but not on BA system. Removed the offending digits and my status displayed correctly. This is what happens when you are an alaska OG