Feb 18, 2017, 12:46 am
Last edit by: tattikat2
Date, Location, Day of week, Time of Day and method of access for denial.
Please include if you are actually flying Alaska that day, or some other airline, so we can see if the BR is giving preference to AS flyers
3/10/17 SEA D AL 4pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/12/17 SEA N & A AL 6pm Sunday PP denied
2/18/17 PDX AL 6:00am Saturday (flying AS) - PP denied (sign out)
3/21/17 SEA D AL 9am Tuesday - sign out
3/21/17 SEA N AL 9:45am Tuesday - sign out
3/24/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/25/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Saturday - sign out
3/25/17 SEA D AL 9:00pm Saturday - sign out
3/26/17 PDX C AL 9:15pm Sunday - Sign out (Was flying AS)
4/2/17 SEA D AL 4:00pm Monday - sign out
4/3/17 SEA D AL 10:30a Monday - sign out - PP requested-denied - was allowed with AL lounge pass - 90% occupied
4/10/17 SEA D 6:45 AM - sign out
4/12/17 SEA D 8:20 PM - sign out
4/14/17 SEA D 10:00 AM - sign out
4/16/17 SEA N 11:00am - sign out, was even upgraded to F on AS and MVP75K, no dice. It was a busy Easter Sunday
4/17/17 PDX 5:35am - no sign, admitted with a smile
4/22/17 PDX 6:35am - no sign, admitted
4/22/17 SEA D 8:15am - no sign, went to Centurion Lounge instead
4/23/17 SEA D and N 4:30pm - sign out. N lounge half empty.
4/26/17 LAX 11:30am - no sign
4/26/17 SEA D no sign, went to The Club
4/27/17 SEA D 10:40 AM - sign out
4/27/17 SEA N 10:50 AM - sign put out just as I entered, admitted with PP as the "last one"
4/27/17 SEA N 4pm - no sign, admitted with PP and a Delta bp
4/30/17 SEA D no sign, admitted
5/1/17 PDX 6:30 am - no sign, admitted, maybe 50% full
5/8/17 SEA D 11:00 am - new sign saying no PP guests, admitted as a PP cardholder.
5/15/17 SEA D 12:30pm sign out no PP
5/18/17 SEA N 7pm Thursday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/18/17 ANC 11:30pm Thursday - no sign, denied, but admitted 45 minutes later (PP, flying AS)
5/19/17 ANC 3pm Friday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/23/17 PDX C 4pm Tue - admitted (PP, flying WN).
5/27/17 PDX 7:50am no sign
6/28/17 LAX 12:30pm/3:30pm- no sign, admitted
9/25/17 PDX 2:00 - sign out, admitted without comment (PP, flying AA)
11/8/17 SEA C 09:00 AM - admitted (PP, flying AS). Only a few seats available, but at least a few seats remained available the whole time I was there
11/16/17 LAX 09:00 AM- sign out, no PP
02/0319 LAX 5pm Sunday-sign out no PP (flying AS)
Please include if you are actually flying Alaska that day, or some other airline, so we can see if the BR is giving preference to AS flyers
3/10/17 SEA D AL 4pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/12/17 SEA N & A AL 6pm Sunday PP denied
2/18/17 PDX AL 6:00am Saturday (flying AS) - PP denied (sign out)
3/21/17 SEA D AL 9am Tuesday - sign out
3/21/17 SEA N AL 9:45am Tuesday - sign out
3/24/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/25/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Saturday - sign out
3/25/17 SEA D AL 9:00pm Saturday - sign out
3/26/17 PDX C AL 9:15pm Sunday - Sign out (Was flying AS)
4/2/17 SEA D AL 4:00pm Monday - sign out
4/3/17 SEA D AL 10:30a Monday - sign out - PP requested-denied - was allowed with AL lounge pass - 90% occupied
4/10/17 SEA D 6:45 AM - sign out
4/12/17 SEA D 8:20 PM - sign out
4/14/17 SEA D 10:00 AM - sign out
4/16/17 SEA N 11:00am - sign out, was even upgraded to F on AS and MVP75K, no dice. It was a busy Easter Sunday
4/17/17 PDX 5:35am - no sign, admitted with a smile
4/22/17 PDX 6:35am - no sign, admitted
4/22/17 SEA D 8:15am - no sign, went to Centurion Lounge instead
4/23/17 SEA D and N 4:30pm - sign out. N lounge half empty.
4/26/17 LAX 11:30am - no sign
4/26/17 SEA D no sign, went to The Club
4/27/17 SEA D 10:40 AM - sign out
4/27/17 SEA N 10:50 AM - sign put out just as I entered, admitted with PP as the "last one"
4/27/17 SEA N 4pm - no sign, admitted with PP and a Delta bp
4/30/17 SEA D no sign, admitted
5/1/17 PDX 6:30 am - no sign, admitted, maybe 50% full
5/8/17 SEA D 11:00 am - new sign saying no PP guests, admitted as a PP cardholder.
5/15/17 SEA D 12:30pm sign out no PP
5/18/17 SEA N 7pm Thursday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/18/17 ANC 11:30pm Thursday - no sign, denied, but admitted 45 minutes later (PP, flying AS)
5/19/17 ANC 3pm Friday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/23/17 PDX C 4pm Tue - admitted (PP, flying WN).
5/27/17 PDX 7:50am no sign
6/28/17 LAX 12:30pm/3:30pm- no sign, admitted
9/25/17 PDX 2:00 - sign out, admitted without comment (PP, flying AA)
11/8/17 SEA C 09:00 AM - admitted (PP, flying AS). Only a few seats available, but at least a few seats remained available the whole time I was there
11/16/17 LAX 09:00 AM- sign out, no PP
02/0319 LAX 5pm Sunday-sign out no PP (flying AS)
Priority Pass and denied entry at the Alaska Lounge b/c of space - 2018 and Earlier
Apr 23, 2018, 2:09 pm
#1471
Moderator: Alaska Mileage Plan
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,320
There is fantasy and there is reality. The reality is that there are only two possible PP options for AS. The status quo (selling excess capacity when available) or exiting the program.
To those feeling so aggrieved by the existing restrictions, this is very good advice...
To those feeling so aggrieved by the existing restrictions, this is very good advice...
Apr 23, 2018, 2:23 pm
#1472
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,397
MVP75K members are Alaska’s most valuable customers, so there are many instances where exceptions are made for them. This happens everyday when you fly Alaska. This includes many policies already in place at the airline. Why? It’s not fair that we are treated special. Could it be that maybe 75Ker’s provide the most revenue to AS which is why those members get extra benefits?
Apr 23, 2018, 2:49 pm
#1473
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
Apr 23, 2018, 3:01 pm
#1474
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Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
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Posts: 20,397
Apr 23, 2018, 7:49 pm
#1475
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PDX
Programs: AS 75K, BW Plat, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 10,725
At $295 for a 75K Alaska Lounge membership, I would almost think Alaska would make more money from frequent PP users since they would get a few PER VISIT rather than just a flat fee for the year.
Apr 23, 2018, 8:44 pm
#1476
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
Also I’m sure PP pays Alaska a fee either yearly or monthly. Regardless of how many people come in the lounges
Apr 23, 2018, 11:48 pm
#1478
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
No source, I was just making a guess. Especially considering the reaction I got from PP after complaining. They called me twice from England, and wrote me three emails. Seems better than just some good customer service. It’s like they really want to know what the situation is that’s happening in Seattle.
Apr 24, 2018, 7:06 am
#1479
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: IAH
Programs: Delta Platinum & 2MM, Marriott Lifetime TIT, Hertz Pres Club, IHG Gold, *A Gold
Posts: 1,253
PDX let me in yesterday, 23-APR-2018, around 9:30 am
Apr 24, 2018, 11:22 am
#1480
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro, Hyatt Globalist, Amex Plat
Posts: 7,044
Anyhow, I value access to the lounges when I need it, so on our next trip to PDX soon, my wife and I will be walking right past the PP sign and entering w/our Admiral's Club membership. Problem solved.
Regards
Apr 24, 2018, 11:24 am
#1481
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro, Hyatt Globalist, Amex Plat
Posts: 7,044
Regards
Apr 24, 2018, 11:38 am
#1482
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro, Hyatt Globalist, Amex Plat
Posts: 7,044
There is fantasy and there is reality. The reality is that there are only two possible PP options for AS. The status quo (selling excess capacity when available) or exiting the program.
To those feeling so aggrieved by the existing restrictions, this is very good advice...
To those feeling so aggrieved by the existing restrictions, this is very good advice...
There is almost a vindictive attitude in this thread that seems to take the position that PP should kick AS lounges out of the program. To what end? What is the point of that? We do see reports here of people getting access to the lounge at certain locations, times of day/hours of the day. What is the point of denying that option to those that are able to take advantage of it? Just to be spiteful to AS? To claim a moral victory? That is just nonsensical logic and seems to be emotionally driven.
PP is a nice, incremental benefit, but it's not a guarantee of entry to any lounge. I always assume I could be denied entry or that I may be there during off limits hours or something. But for lounges that offer paid membership, if entry is important enough to you and you value using the lounge, there is a solution available to you. For those to cheap to solve the problem that way, I'd then submit that you don't value entry and lounge usage as much as you claim you do.
Regards
Apr 24, 2018, 1:30 pm
#1483
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Diego, CA/Boston, MA
Programs: United Lifetime Plat 2 million, Starwood Platinum, Alaska MVP Gold 75k
Posts: 143
One thing I have found, for now, is that the Alaska/VX integration is so bad, that if you do happen to get an upgrade on VX, the lounge staff will let you in regardless of the sign. They don't even know if it was an upgrade or paid fare!
Apr 24, 2018, 1:38 pm
#1484
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Apr 24, 2018, 4:20 pm
#1485
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Portland
Programs: MVPGold 75K
Posts: 496
Well I am a strong supporter of eliminating PP entrance altogether
I pay annual membership, and if people like as lounge that much they should do the same. I am not sure why is this topic here at all. Take that to other forums. I am so sorry but this is not Alaska fault and should not be posted here