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Old Sep 24, 2016, 1:22 pm
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See below in the expanded wiki for the list of the reconfigured aircraft.

December 3, 2015 Alaska announced a reconfiguration of its fleet.

Originally Posted by alaskaair.com/newsroom
Seats in the Premium Class section will have at least 35" of pitch, compared to 31" to 32" in the rest of the main cabin. To make room for the Premium Class while maintaining pitch in the main cabin, Alaska will reconfigure and reduce the number of seats available on some aircraft. Also, pitch in the First Class cabin will be increased from 36" to 42" providing a significantly enhanced experience for those customers.


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Model Fleet count Current seats Reconfigured cabin
 (First class/Main cabin)(First class/Premium class/Main)
 
 737-800 61 16/147 12/30/117
 
 737-900/900ER 77 16/165 16/24/138
 
 E175 15 12/64 12/12/52
The first reconfigured aircraft - N536AS - entered service 9/25/16.

List of reconfigured aircraft:

737-800

N506AS
N508AS
N512AS
N513AS
N514AS
N516AS
N517AS
N518AS
N519AS
N520AS
N523AS
N524AS
N525AS
N526AS
N527AS
N528AS
N529AS
N530AS
N532AS
N533AS
N534AS
N535AS
N536AS
N537AS
N538AS
N546AS
N548AS
N549AS
N551AS
N552AS
N553AS
N556AS
N557AS
N558AS
N559AS
N560AS
N562AS
N563AS
N564AS
N565AS
N568AS
N569AS
N570AS
N577AS
N579AS
N581AS
N583AS
N584AS
N585AS
N586AS
N587AS
N588AS
N589AS
N590AS
N592AS
N593AS
N594AS
N596AS
N597AS

Total: 59 / 61 (97% complete)



Last updated: 12/18

Previous thread discussing PE

You can find the scheduled tail number of your flight here:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/as123
(replace as123 with as[your flight num])
However aircraft swaps are frequent, even up to the last hour.
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Old Oct 6, 2016, 7:41 pm
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Flew KTN-JNU on AS 67 (N528AS) and inspected Y while on the ground in SIT. Rows 6 thru 10 are PE. I sat in one of the seats and agree there's a goodly amount of legroom. It felt like it was 80% of exit row. My assigned seat was 1C and that felt almost like being in bulkhead on the combi.

The visual demarcation between rows 10 and 11 was readily apparent.

Per the F FA, they won't start to charge until all the planes have been reconfigured. She mentioned she heard that it will cost $100 to upgauge from steerage into PE. I shuddered. I think $100 is a little steep and of course, we have yet to hear how elites will be handled (with kid gloves, I hope and trust).

If someone who bought a PE seat wants to move back into a fully empty row in Y, the FA will be able to refund the PE upgrade amount on the spot with their handy-dandy device. They will also be enforcing against poachers.

The entire SIT station, it seemed, came on to take a look. Apparently a reconfigured plane had yet to come thru here.

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Old Oct 6, 2016, 7:54 pm
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Originally Posted by dave1013
Flew KTN-JNU on AS 67 (N528AS) and inspected Y while on the ground in SIT. Rows 6 thru 10 are PE. I sat in one of the seats and agree there's a goodly amount of legroom. It felt like it was 80% of exit row. My assigned seat was 1C and that felt almost like being in bulkhead on the combi.

The visual demarcation between rows 10 and 11 was readily apparent.

Per the F FA, they won't start to charge until all the planes have been reconfigured. She mentioned she heard that it will cost $100 to upgauge from steerage into PE. I shuddered. I think $100 is a little steep and of course, we have yet to hear how elites will be handled (with kid gloves, I hope and trust).

If someone who bought a PE seat wants to move back into a fully empty row in Y, the FA will be able to refund the PE upgrade amount on the spot either handy-dandy device. They will also be enforcing against poachers.

The entire SIT station, it seemed, came on to take a look. Apparently a reconfigured plane had yet to come thru here.
$100 to "upgrade" to PE? Uh, I don't think we want to hear how elites will be handled...I can see some sort of "discount" for elites, but if they're hoping to get $100 for a PE seat, you better believe they're not going to be too excited about giving away those seats for "free" to elites. As I've said before, I think the best plan right now is to lock in as many advance seat assignments as you can in what will soon be the PE section.
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Old Oct 6, 2016, 9:12 pm
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$100 to "upgrade" to PE? Uh, I don't think we want to hear how elites will be handled...I can see some sort of "discount" for elites, but if they're hoping to get $100 for a PE seat, you better believe they're not going to be too excited about giving away those seats for "free" to elites. As I've said before, I think the best plan right now is to lock in as many advance seat assignments as you can in what will soon be the PE section.
Pure speculation.
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Old Oct 6, 2016, 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by flytoeat
Pure speculation.
Yep...I hope I'm wrong.
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Old Oct 6, 2016, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by PDXPremier
Yep...I hope I'm wrong.
Surely a flat fee is highly unlikely. It will depend on the length of the flight / distance and perhaps even dynamically on the demand. Even for a transcon $100 would seem too high to me unless they dine and wine you non-stop in those seats.
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AS charges $50 for F as a gate upgrade across a large swath of their network. How's $100 for a worse seat and less "free" stuff going to work?
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
AS charges $50 for F as a gate upgrade across a large swath of their network. How's $100 for a worse seat and less "free" stuff going to work?
Exactly! Im sure the fees will be higher than the current Preferred+ pricing given that the product is supposed to be better. Even when cross comparing to Delta Comfort seats where you get unlimited drinks and snacks and spacious seating, the fees on short flights like LAX-LAS are nothing close to $100. And with the never ending competition with Delta especially in Seattle, Alaska would have to price the new Y+ competitively and appropriately. Now I can see such a fee on the longer routes such as the Hawaii market or Central America and the LAX-ANC route etc.
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Old Oct 7, 2016, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by rustykettel
But will Row 1 pax still be able to stick their bare feet on the bulkhead carpet wall high enough to be visible from Row 4?
There is no row 4 on the reconfigured birds (at least N528AS). It goes from 3 right to 6.
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
AS charges $50 for F as a gate upgrade across a large swath of their network. How's $100 for a worse seat and less "free" stuff going to work?
I asked the FA if It was going to be $100 to upgrade into PE regardless of stage length. She pondered and said "that's a good question, I am sure someone is thinking that through". <rimshot>

So yes, her mention of $100 was speculative. Note that I go on to mention it remains to be seen how elites will be handled.

The proof will be in the pudding.
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Old Oct 7, 2016, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
Surely a flat fee is highly unlikely. It will depend on the length of the flight / distance and perhaps even dynamically on the demand. Even for a transcon $100 would seem too high to me unless they dine and wine you non-stop in those seats.
You would be amazed - distressed - at how much Delta and United ask for Comfort+ and Economy Plus seats. ATL-SFO (DL) was $120 each way a few years ago. AS may not get that premium per mile when paid availability first rolls out but one can be confident that will be the goal.
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
You would be amazed - distressed - at how much Delta and United ask for Comfort+ and Economy Plus seats. ATL-SFO (DL) was $120 each way a few years ago. AS may not get that premium per mile when paid availability first rolls out but one can be confident that will be the goal.
Yeah, that is "distressing". I have only once paid for E+ -- a decade or so ago I paid the annual subscription fee on United when I didn't have status yet and it was maybe $300 for a year.

Thanks for the reality check.
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I don't see many people wanting to pay much for a PE middle seat and you will see them mostly go to last minute seat assignments. I do like how many airlines now show a price by each seat and think through the value now of each seat. I know Alaska likes to keep things more simple though which is fine.

Now, if they would implement middle seat blocking next to 75Ks, then I will be happy (Used to be done on United a few years ago)
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Originally Posted by dmodemd
I don't see many people wanting to pay much for a PE middle seat and you will see them mostly go to last minute seat assignments. I do like how many airlines now show a price by each seat and think through the value now of each seat. I know Alaska likes to keep things more simple though which is fine.

Now, if they would implement middle seat blocking next to 75Ks, then I will be happy (Used to be done on United a few years ago)
My guess (and I hope I'm wrong) is that AS will do what DL and create a separate "upgrade" list for PE so that PE middle seat is likely to be filled by an elite from their exit row aisle seat....good times....
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Old Oct 7, 2016, 1:33 pm
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Now, if they would implement middle seat blocking next to 75Ks, then I will be happy (Used to be done on United a few years ago)
LOLZ. AS has something like 83% load factor (so do all the majors). Dream on.
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Old Oct 7, 2016, 1:39 pm
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
LOLZ. AS has something like 83% load factor (so do all the majors). Dream on.
That's still 17% open! That's a lot of middle seats! Yeah, everyone of my flights is 100% :P
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