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Old May 1, 2016, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by ou81two
It's not specific to any one airline, but the ghetto ones tend to have it more often.
This isn't really related to the thread, but 'ghetto; isn't an appropriate adjective in this instance. Ghettoization is a real problem, and using the word to describe airlines trivializes the issue.
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Old May 1, 2016, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by QXflyer
This isn't really related to the thread, but 'ghetto; isn't an appropriate adjective in this instance. Ghettoization is a real problem, and using the word to describe airlines trivializes the issue.
I fly that particular "ghetto" airline all the time. The idea that an airline that doesn't charge you for checked luggage or confiscate your money when you change travel plans is "ghetto" is particularly laughable. If anything, all the legacy airlines, including AS, have the hallmarks of "hose the little people to make money and charge fees whenever you can" that is so prevalent in the American inner cities in check-cashing/payroll loan joints.
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Old May 1, 2016, 3:53 pm
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Old rule, something must have happened
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Old May 1, 2016, 6:58 pm
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Originally Posted by flyupfrnt
Why is it necessary to hawk a credit card at me on 7/10 flights?

The answer to both questions is the same -

Because (I/You/We) Can

Frankly, I don't think either is necessary.
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Old May 1, 2016, 9:47 pm
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Originally Posted by AS Flyer
Frankly, I don't think either is necessary.
I fully agree. Neither is necessary nor appropriate.

I've never even thought about bringing alcohol aboard a flight---but reading this thread, I'm thinking one could bring 2 mini bottles of good scotch from the Oregon liquor commission store in my carry on (Glenlivet or Johnny Walker Black retail for $4 a mini bottle)---legally through TSA. On a 4-6 hour flight, w/lunch or dinner, I'm not going to get impaired consuming it as a pre-meal cocktail. And I absolutely hate Dewar's. I don't get the biz model of serving such a horrible scotch---especially when I'm in paid F....it almost encourages bad behavior.
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Old May 2, 2016, 9:44 am
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had a pretty good drunk and disorderly incident on AS368 last night.

middle aged woman tried to board with F, was told to wait for MVP/MVPG as she was in coach (15B mind you, probably not even elite). she loudly declared that she "don't need no drink to know that she's second class" and cursed AS a few times while waiting. frankly i was surprised the GAs let her on in the first place, she was seriously smashed and honestly i thought she was high but who knows. so, she barged on the plane with the MVPs and proceeded to make herself comfortable in 1C.

most of the boarding process comes and goes, eventually the FAs catch onto what is happening presumably when 1C comes to claim his seat, and a SEA supervisor comes on the plane to sort out the seating issue. in 6D i heard the conversation pretty clearly, sup basically informed her she was in the wrong seat and asked her to take her stuff and go back to 15B. she relented, cursed again, at which time he took her off and onto the jetbridge. eventually she came back on and went back to 15B. supervisor left and it appeared we were going to depart, when all 3 FAs went up front and asked the capt to have her removed. of course he readily agreed. so the sup comes back on and escorts her off, she's raging at this point...i would not be surprised if she left the airport in handcuffs.

hats off to the FAs and capt for making the right decision, i was very shocked she was allowed to board and even more surprised the sup didn't make the decision to remove her on his own.
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Old May 2, 2016, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by bigbirdwithsilverwings
I fully agree. Neither is necessary nor appropriate.

I've never even thought about bringing alcohol aboard a flight---but reading this thread, I'm thinking one could bring 2 mini bottles of good scotch from the Oregon liquor commission store in my carry on (Glenlivet or Johnny Walker Black retail for $4 a mini bottle)---legally through TSA. On a 4-6 hour flight, w/lunch or dinner, I'm not going to get impaired consuming it as a pre-meal cocktail. And I absolutely hate Dewar's. I don't get the biz model of serving such a horrible scotch---especially when I'm in paid F....it almost encourages bad behavior.
You can buy 3oz flasks which pass TSA inspection 100% of the time. Little Johnny Blue in one pocket, little Angels Envy in the other. You're set for whatever comes.

And before anyone yells at me, I would never knowingly violate the FARs. But what happens if we make an emergency landing somewhere in the wilds? I'm definitely going to want some dutch courage in that situation.
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Old May 2, 2016, 6:24 pm
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It's like when kids push to see how far they can push the envelope before they get in trouble. Honestly, you all go on about "the kettles" and how frequent flyers are so much better than they, yet you seem to take glee in seeing if you can break a rule. I imagine that most here can afford the $6 for a drink, so why is it so exciting to bring your own mini? Would you bring your own liquor to a restaurant, and sneak pours when the server's attention was elsewhere? I don't get it. But okay.
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Old May 2, 2016, 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by WhIteSidE
But what happens if we make an emergency landing somewhere in the wilds? I'm definitely going to want some dutch courage in that situation.
Great point ! I'd drink to that notion
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Old May 2, 2016, 11:41 pm
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Originally Posted by AS Flyer
It's like when kids push to see how far they can push the envelope before they get in trouble. Honestly, you all go on about "the kettles" and how frequent flyers are so much better than they, yet you seem to take glee in seeing if you can break a rule. I imagine that most here can afford the $6 for a drink, so why is it so exciting to bring your own mini? Would you bring your own liquor to a restaurant, and sneak pours when the server's attention was elsewhere? I don't get it. But okay.
As for me, I've never broken any FAR-ever. To the extent I'd want to bring a mini (or as a previous poster taught me, a 3oz flask-who would have figured??), it would have 0 to do w/"pushing the rules". It would be a reflection upon airlines penny-pinching to the point that they don't serve a decent scotch-even for a paid F class seat. Easy solution. Alaska should go back to serving a decent scotch and pay the extra $1-$1.50 a mini-bottle it would cost them. When I've got $1900 in 2 round trip tickets from PDX to ORD, that really is not too much to ask, and it is not okay. In the meantime, I'm aware of this lapse in customer service and so I expect to be disappointed and w/o a cocktail...I read a book w/soda water.
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Old May 2, 2016, 11:43 pm
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Originally Posted by WhIteSidE
You can buy 3oz flasks which pass TSA inspection 100% of the time. Little Johnny Blue in one pocket, little Angels Envy in the other. You're set for whatever comes.

And before anyone yells at me, I would never knowingly violate the FARs. But what happens if we make an emergency landing somewhere in the wilds? I'm definitely going to want some dutch courage in that situation.
Funny and informative post.
This is why I require all of my flights to never be more than 20NM from a first world airport!
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Old May 2, 2016, 11:52 pm
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Originally Posted by bigbirdwithsilverwings
As for me, I've never broken any FAR-ever. To the extent I'd want to bring a mini (or as a previous poster taught me, a 3oz flask-who would have figured??), it would have 0 to do w/"pushing the rules". It would be a reflection upon airlines penny-pinching to the point that they don't serve a decent scotch-even for a paid F class seat. Easy solution. Alaska should go back to serving a decent scotch and pay the extra $1-$1.50 a mini-bottle it would cost them. When I've got $1900 in 2 round trip tickets from PDX to ORD, that really is not too much to ask, and it is not okay. In the meantime, I'm aware of this lapse in customer service and so I expect to be disappointed and w/o a cocktail...I read a book w/soda water.
you paid $950 round trip per ticket for a 4 hour flight? Wow. I'm a little surprised that a round trip, First Class ticket on a 4 hour flight is so cheap to be honest. And I don't mean that to belittle your concern. I really expected that it was more. I remember when it was that much to go one way on a full coach fare ticket from Chicago to Dallas. It was crazy expensive. Anyway, yes, I would agree, a different scotch whiskey would be nice. And I appreciate that you aren't breaking the CFR's. Actually, what I appreciate more is that you aren't interested in putting the Flight Attendant in an awkward position. Thank you.

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Old May 3, 2016, 1:42 am
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The amount of rationalization, projection and false equivalence on display is staggering.
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Old May 3, 2016, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by bigbirdwithsilverwings
Easy solution. Alaska should go back to serving a decent scotch and pay the extra $1-$1.50 a mini-bottle it would cost them.
It would cost them a lot less unless it was a super premium brand.

Nevertheless, the vast majority of the "I will only drink non-gut-rot" crowd isn't the the "I'm going to sneak my own hooch" on the plane crowd. In fact, if allowed, they'd buy their own, bring it on the plane, and have the FA serve it to them. (I'm referring to those in the F cabin, so this isn't any scheme to save money. In fact, it saves the airline money.)
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Old May 3, 2016, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by AS Flyer
Would you bring your own liquor to a restaurant, and sneak pours when the server's attention was elsewhere? I don't get it. But okay.
I actually present it to the server and pay the restaurant to have the server serve it to me
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