Disruption Strategy
#16


Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,844
Hi, some Kiwi relatives have been caught up in the disruptions .
Four of them were booked to fly Brisbane to Auckland on Saturday night 16 july.
They received a text early that day saying that the flight was cancelled and to call ANZ for options.
They did and, after 90 minutes, spoke with an operator who told them that the earliest flight home was on Monday 18 july . No offer of a non direct flight ( eg via SYD) or to go via another airline although , to be fair , it was school holidays ( NZ and NZ) so seats would be likely unavailable .
Some hours later , another message to say they had been changed to the next day's flight on tuesday evening!
Unfortunately, I was not present at the call but I had expected NZ would have offered some future payment for additional accommodation meals and expected reportedly , there was none .
I am guessing that the usual causes affected the cancellation eg illness amongst staff etc.
We are not talking about rich people here just a group of young people visiting relatives in Queensland.
Is NZ under some obligation to offer some compensation for additional expenses and , in two cases , loss of income from their work ?
Four of them were booked to fly Brisbane to Auckland on Saturday night 16 july.
They received a text early that day saying that the flight was cancelled and to call ANZ for options.
They did and, after 90 minutes, spoke with an operator who told them that the earliest flight home was on Monday 18 july . No offer of a non direct flight ( eg via SYD) or to go via another airline although , to be fair , it was school holidays ( NZ and NZ) so seats would be likely unavailable .
Some hours later , another message to say they had been changed to the next day's flight on tuesday evening!
Unfortunately, I was not present at the call but I had expected NZ would have offered some future payment for additional accommodation meals and expected reportedly , there was none .
I am guessing that the usual causes affected the cancellation eg illness amongst staff etc.
We are not talking about rich people here just a group of young people visiting relatives in Queensland.
Is NZ under some obligation to offer some compensation for additional expenses and , in two cases , loss of income from their work ?
#17




Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: SYD
Programs: Mid-tiers with no tears: OZ*G, AC*G, NZ*S, VA Silver, QF Gold, HH Gold, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 5,434
I was in WorksDeluxe BNE-WLG in 03F (83cm), and was envious that the Works pax on the left side had much more room (86cm). I was a late change so the WD Seats with HVC seating were all gone.
But youd think if paying $140 more for WD over Works youd at least get the best seating?
But youd think if paying $140 more for WD over Works youd at least get the best seating?
#18
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: WLG/BKK
Programs: TG*G, NZ*GE, QF G, Accor Plat
Posts: 12,706
I agree it's not quite so generous on the NEOs but still entirely acceptable and vastly better than the competition. What I find odd on the NEOs is how short they made the seat cushion - was it to make the legroom look better? - but although I find it a little disconcerting, especially since I have long legs, I don't find it uncomfortable so I guess no harm, no foul. I do find the higher windowline and slightly greater width on the A320 family distinctly preferable to the 737.
Yes, you really would. WD just seems like a pathetically thrown-together excuse of a product, and so half-hearted. And yet, here it still is all these years later, effectively unchanged. I can see some appeal to people who otherwise might not get lounge access but for the most part it just seems a waste of the front two rows.
Yes, you really would. WD just seems like a pathetically thrown-together excuse of a product, and so half-hearted. And yet, here it still is all these years later, effectively unchanged. I can see some appeal to people who otherwise might not get lounge access but for the most part it just seems a waste of the front two rows.
I was initially booked Seat only, but elected to buy-up to WD to at least give it a try once.
#19


Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 780
#20




Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: SYD
Programs: Mid-tiers with no tears: OZ*G, AC*G, NZ*S, VA Silver, QF Gold, HH Gold, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 5,434
Oh... and is there still a cheese plate? If so what does this mythical creation look like? They don't seem to mention it anymore on the website: Works Deluxe Experience | Air New Zealand Australia
#21
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: WLG/BKK
Programs: TG*G, NZ*GE, QF G, Accor Plat
Posts: 12,706
Wow, that values it even less. Did WD include lounge access once upon a time? I guess the priority boarding and extra bags are benefits you'd get as a *G anyway, so it really comes down to the empty middle seat and front-of-plane positioning.
Oh... and is there still a cheese plate? If so what does this mythical creation look like? They don't seem to mention it anymore on the website: Works Deluxe Experience | Air New Zealand Australia
Oh... and is there still a cheese plate? If so what does this mythical creation look like? They don't seem to mention it anymore on the website: Works Deluxe Experience | Air New Zealand Australia
#22




Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: AKL
Programs: NZ*E, QR Plat
Posts: 398
I was wondering about that. Have been amazed by how slowly NZ is ramping up its trans-Tasman schedule (still only 3x SYD-AKL flights daily, only one on widebody). As a result have been using QF across the ditch... which made me realise how much I miss Space+ (especially since none of my u/g requests have cleared.
2 other interesting points -
1. discovered I was OW Emerald, which meant I could use a separate first class section of the QF lounge in AKL - it felt more crowded than the other area though!
2. Guy behind me in Y - must have been a platinum 1.. was asked for drink preferences on take off and given a standard/full bottle of red near the end of the flight!
#23




Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: SYD
Programs: Mid-tiers with no tears: OZ*G, AC*G, NZ*S, VA Silver, QF Gold, HH Gold, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 5,434
agree! QF Y (couldn't get a seat on NZ J or QF) was awful, no leg room and dated plane. Also hated how the dimmed the cabin lights for the whole flight which felt really eerie to me!
2 other interesting points -
1. discovered I was OW Emerald, which meant I could use a separate first class section of the QF lounge in AKL - it felt more crowded than the other area though!
2. Guy behind me in Y - must have been a platinum 1.. was asked for drink preferences on take off and given a standard/full bottle of red near the end of the flight!
2 other interesting points -
1. discovered I was OW Emerald, which meant I could use a separate first class section of the QF lounge in AKL - it felt more crowded than the other area though!
2. Guy behind me in Y - must have been a platinum 1.. was asked for drink preferences on take off and given a standard/full bottle of red near the end of the flight!
Re the free wine... if it's what was served in coach I can't imagine a high-flying P1 being all that interested in it. Though QF's business class wines are usually respectable so maybe it was that.
#24




Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: AKL
Programs: NZ*E, QR Plat
Posts: 398
That's quite an interesting way to discover you're OWE! Would have been a lot more useful flying in the other direction, as at least ex-SYD or MEL you could use the F lounge, which by all accounts really IS actually quite special (I've never had the pleasure, sadly).
Re the free wine... if it's what was served in coach I can't imagine a high-flying P1 being all that interested in it. Though QF's business class wines are usually respectable so maybe it was that.
Re the free wine... if it's what was served in coach I can't imagine a high-flying P1 being all that interested in it. Though QF's business class wines are usually respectable so maybe it was that.
#25




Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: SYD
Programs: Mid-tiers with no tears: OZ*G, AC*G, NZ*S, VA Silver, QF Gold, HH Gold, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 5,434
Good strategy... but only because you're Platinum / OWE. The QF business lounges at Sydney and Melbourne are really nothing special at all.
#26


Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 780
I see the fare credit policy has been extended through end of August. Has anyone here had success getting their TA to put a flight into credit? How does this work - are you then able to just use the Air NZ website with your credit or do you need to go through your TA again? I need to change my Amex annual complimentary domestic flight due to a bereavement but would prefer to just put the fare into credit as opposed to changing it right now. When I was speaking with NZ call centre they said that the TA needs to put the flight into credit for me but details on this are sparse.
#27




Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 386
I see the fare credit policy has been extended through end of August. Has anyone here had success getting their TA to put a flight into credit? How does this work - are you then able to just use the Air NZ website with your credit or do you need to go through your TA again? I need to change my Amex annual complimentary domestic flight due to a bereavement but would prefer to just put the fare into credit as opposed to changing it right now. When I was speaking with NZ call centre they said that the TA needs to put the flight into credit for me but details on this are sparse.
For that (unfortunate) reason, all my personal travel are directly booked via AirNZ site.
#29


Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: New Zealand (most of the time)
Programs: Air NZ Elite *G, Honors Gold, IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 7,066
It's no different to any other booking. An agent is exactly that - your agent. By booking with one they become your point of contact for anything related to a booking.
#30


Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 780
Thanks for sharing. I managed to get in touch with Amex today to discuss. They had to call Air NZ to check but promised to call beck and call back they did. The fare is now in credit and can be used at a later date, even though it was the complimentary fare.

