Elite Priority One
Aug 2, 2014, 6:43 am
#106
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: NZ*G ELT, VA-G
Posts: 3,601
But if you factor in other FFP's there is nothing competitive about that.
Aug 2, 2014, 6:56 am
#107
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Auckland
Programs: NZ Elite, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 908
However, my needs (and I assume a lot of others) mean that only half of the journey to Europe will be on NZ. The other half might be CX/TG/LX/LH etc.
If I was to buy a PE fare AKL-PVG-ZRH-LHR, I can upgrade to Biz AKL-PVG but the rest of the journey will be Economy.
I recently had to travel to London and NZ J was 13.5K return via LAX. Instead, I went AKL-(SQ F)-SIN-(LH F)-FRA-(LH J)-LHR-(LX J)-ZRH-(LX J)-LAX-(NZ J)-AKL which came to roughly 11.5k...
Aug 4, 2014, 7:56 pm
#108
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Nelson
Programs: NZ*GE
Posts: 43
I just flew back from BNE to WLG with Virgin Australia (AirNZ ticketed).
Not too bad. So I decided to look at their FFP. Nice features like "Family Pooling" which allows up to 6 members to group points together. And the entry bar for platinum, while equivalent to GE, looks like it would require as many flights as it would take to get to G on AirNZ FFP. I think if I lived in Aus it would be a far better offer.
Not too bad. So I decided to look at their FFP. Nice features like "Family Pooling" which allows up to 6 members to group points together. And the entry bar for platinum, while equivalent to GE, looks like it would require as many flights as it would take to get to G on AirNZ FFP. I think if I lived in Aus it would be a far better offer.
Aug 4, 2014, 11:53 pm
#109
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SYD
Programs: QF LTG, VASG, NZ*S, OZD, IHG SpireAMB, HHD
Posts: 1,421
I just flew back from BNE to WLG with Virgin Australia (AirNZ ticketed).
Not too bad. So I decided to look at their FFP. Nice features like "Family Pooling" which allows up to 6 members to group points together. And the entry bar for platinum, while equivalent to GE, looks like it would require as many flights as it would take to get to G on AirNZ FFP. I think if I lived in Aus it would be a far better offer.
Not too bad. So I decided to look at their FFP. Nice features like "Family Pooling" which allows up to 6 members to group points together. And the entry bar for platinum, while equivalent to GE, looks like it would require as many flights as it would take to get to G on AirNZ FFP. I think if I lived in Aus it would be a far better offer.
Aug 5, 2014, 6:42 am
#110
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Nelson
Programs: NZ*GE
Posts: 43
By chance today I got send a online questionnaire from airNZ regarding the AKL->NRT flight. It was a fairly long one and asked about my VA travels since I ticked them as an airline I've flown with in the last 12 months. I used the comments to point out my next family holiday in October for 6 pax will be on VA, CHC to LAX and that the price difference between airNZ and VA was "enlightening". I also ticked the options that allowed them to link the responses to my AP#. Be interesting to see if I get any response at all.
Aug 5, 2014, 6:47 am
#111
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: NZ*G ELT, VA-G
Posts: 3,601
You can only credit the full fares (ie., Y, B, Q, H, M) domestic flights to Velocity which is in line with accruals with other *A programmes but most trans-Tasman and long haul fares do credit to Velocity, unlike other *A programmes.
Aug 5, 2014, 4:29 pm
#114
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Auckland
Programs: NZ Elite, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 908
Was told a couple of weeks ago by an agent that all staff at Air NZ are not permitted (under any circumstances) to discuss the EP1 programme with people who are not EP1. They even said that they get very little, if any, information on the programme. However, they did say that if you name a major NZ CEO that they would most likely be one...
Aug 6, 2014, 9:38 pm
#115
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SYD
Programs: QF LTG, VASG, NZ*S, OZD, IHG SpireAMB, HHD
Posts: 1,421
Aug 19, 2014, 10:13 pm
#116
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Wellington or Melbourne
Programs: NZ*Gold Elite
Posts: 31
After reading the posts above and NZ's handling of NZ9 recently I have decided to share my opinion as it has been on my mind lately, like many others on this thread.
I have flown with Air New Zealand as an Elite for over 4 years now and have been flying for many more as Koru member before this as only in the last few years has my travel substantially increased. Over the past few years and more recently the nearly one year I have been involved in FlyerTalk I have experienced huge changes within Air NZ.
Im very proud of New Zealand's national carrier and whenever I see their aircraft with the iconic Koru design on the tale I feel very exited and proud. I really enjoy travel and I do my best to stay loyal to NZ when I fly around the world.
However, recently I, and many others, have noticed big changes within the company and the way it operates. As sbiddle mentioned above the way Air NZ perceives itself and the opinion customers have of the airline are currently very different. The great Kiwi service and can do attitude of staff has seriously degraded in recent times and new changes to the Airpoints programs and other cost cutting measures may make shareholders happy, but it is doing the opposite to its most frequent customers.
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I have flown with Air New Zealand as an Elite for over 4 years now and have been flying for many more as Koru member before this as only in the last few years has my travel substantially increased. Over the past few years and more recently the nearly one year I have been involved in FlyerTalk I have experienced huge changes within Air NZ.
Im very proud of New Zealand's national carrier and whenever I see their aircraft with the iconic Koru design on the tale I feel very exited and proud. I really enjoy travel and I do my best to stay loyal to NZ when I fly around the world.
However, recently I, and many others, have noticed big changes within the company and the way it operates. As sbiddle mentioned above the way Air NZ perceives itself and the opinion customers have of the airline are currently very different. The great Kiwi service and can do attitude of staff has seriously degraded in recent times and new changes to the Airpoints programs and other cost cutting measures may make shareholders happy, but it is doing the opposite to its most frequent customers.
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Noteable changes over last year or so:
- no pre-dinner drinks service
- no small bottle of wine now, just a cup
- 20 minutes or so wait from getting food to a drink if row 10+
- often (almost always it seems) no post dinner drinks service "as time ran out".
Aug 19, 2014, 10:53 pm
#117
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: NZ G, QF Bronze
Posts: 326
Yes, TT service is degrading for all, including GE....
Noteable changes over last year or so:
- no pre-dinner drinks service
- no small bottle of wine now, just a cup
- 20 minutes or so wait from getting food to a drink if row 10+
- often (almost always it seems) no post dinner drinks service "as time ran out".
Noteable changes over last year or so:
- no pre-dinner drinks service
- no small bottle of wine now, just a cup
- 20 minutes or so wait from getting food to a drink if row 10+
- often (almost always it seems) no post dinner drinks service "as time ran out".
The move away from the bottles of wine is a step backwards but probably does save them money.
I find time seems to "run out" mostly on a320s which really do feel like a LCC experience.
I actively seek out 763 flights for the two abreast seating and faster service.
Aug 24, 2014, 10:15 pm
#118
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Zealand
Programs: NZ*S plus various hotel programs
Posts: 945
Trying to bring this one back on topic, I spotted Helen Clark, current #3 at the UN and former Prime Minister in the non-EP1 part of the AKL domestic lounge, so it is possible that she is not EP1.
Aug 25, 2014, 12:18 am
#119
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: Airpoints, HHONORS GOLD VIP, Aclub Gold
Posts: 763
her air nz flights are so subsidised by the tax payer she should consider herself very lucky, even if she is not ep1..!
Aug 26, 2014, 12:37 am
#120
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Christchurch, NZ
Programs: NZ *E, QF Gold, Hertz President’s Circle, Accor Gold, PanPacific Platinum
Posts: 754