Last edit by: seawolf
European Commission EC261/2004 guidelines in context of COVD-19 dated 18 MAR 2020
US DoT Enforcement Notice regarding refunds dated 3 APR 2020.
US DoT Enforcement Notice regarding refunds dated 3 APR 2020.
COVID-19: refund provided as voucher (for non refundable fares)
#241
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 24
Not sure if this has been posted up thread but I see this on this Air France website:
https://www.airfrance.ca/CA/en/commo...234.1586313188
”You have a ticket issued in the United States for an Air France flight: the above possibilities to postpone your flight apply.
In addition, if your flight was cancelled and you decide not to travel, you can obtain a refund at no cost for your ticket by contacting your point of sale directly.“
https://www.airfrance.ca/CA/en/commo...234.1586313188
”You have a ticket issued in the United States for an Air France flight: the above possibilities to postpone your flight apply.
In addition, if your flight was cancelled and you decide not to travel, you can obtain a refund at no cost for your ticket by contacting your point of sale directly.“
#242
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Paris
Programs: AA LT Plat (4m+), AF Plat, A3 Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat/Ambassador
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#243
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LBA
Programs: KLM FB Gold, BA, LH M&M
Posts: 400
7 days after requesting a travel voucher from KLM via the online form, I finally get a confirmation email.
But the travel voucher will take a while longer...
"Recently, you’ve requested a refund in the form of a travel voucher.
We want to confirm that we received your request.
Because of the high volumes of requests, it can take multiple weeks for us to process your request."
Multiple weeks?! Are they hand processing every voucher request?
But the travel voucher will take a while longer...
"Recently, you’ve requested a refund in the form of a travel voucher.
We want to confirm that we received your request.
Because of the high volumes of requests, it can take multiple weeks for us to process your request."
Multiple weeks?! Are they hand processing every voucher request?
#244
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 291
7 days after requesting a travel voucher from KLM via the online form, I finally get a confirmation email.
But the travel voucher will take a while longer...
"Recently, you’ve requested a refund in the form of a travel voucher.
We want to confirm that we received your request.
Because of the high volumes of requests, it can take multiple weeks for us to process your request."
Multiple weeks?! Are they hand processing every voucher request?
But the travel voucher will take a while longer...
"Recently, you’ve requested a refund in the form of a travel voucher.
We want to confirm that we received your request.
Because of the high volumes of requests, it can take multiple weeks for us to process your request."
Multiple weeks?! Are they hand processing every voucher request?
#245
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
Programs: AF/KL Plat, BA Gold, TK Silver, IHG Platinum, MR Gold, HH Gold, A-Club Silver, Hertz PC
Posts: 970
This is all fine and they will probably obey to it. However, they will claim that due to the extreme situation, they cannot stick to the 7 days imposed by the EU regulation - but rather repay in 3,4,5,6, months. In that case, it might be better to take a voucher if this was immediately available and rather flexible to use.
Going after your legal right as per above might take you even longer.
The difference between theory and application...
Going after your legal right as per above might take you even longer.
The difference between theory and application...
#247
Join Date: May 2010
Programs: Delta Silver, BA Bronze, HH Diamond, Accor Gold, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 5,289
This has been the case since the beginning, before there was a global policy next to it.
#249
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: YUL
Posts: 936
This morning I received cancellation emails for 4 trips in June. I went directly to my CC company and started the chargeback process. They seemed to think it would be no issue getting a full refund. I will report back on the outcome.
#250
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
Programs: AF/KL Plat, BA Gold, TK Silver, IHG Platinum, MR Gold, HH Gold, A-Club Silver, Hertz PC
Posts: 970
Which country was the point of sale and in which country is the credit card issued ?
#252
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 13,132
My flights are 6/6-16/6, purchased thru AMEX (US) IAP. Out of SFO. All flights/routes suspended.
Received no emails. AF app has notification of free changes, but the link fails.
On AF's flight status page they seem to only officially cancel fights at one week before departure.
Does anyone know if AMEX IAP is taking claims under these circumstances (route suspended and notification of change-ability, but no notification of flight cancellation)?
#253
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: YUL
Posts: 936
From Air France? Did you purchase direct from AF?
My flights are 6/6-16/6, purchased thru AMEX (US) IAP. Out of SFO. All flights/routes suspended.
Received no emails. AF app has notification of free changes, but the link fails.
On AF's flight status page they seem to only officially cancel fights at one week before departure.
Does anyone know if AMEX IAP is taking claims under these circumstances (route suspended and notification of change-ability, but no notification of flight cancellation)?
My flights are 6/6-16/6, purchased thru AMEX (US) IAP. Out of SFO. All flights/routes suspended.
Received no emails. AF app has notification of free changes, but the link fails.
On AF's flight status page they seem to only officially cancel fights at one week before departure.
Does anyone know if AMEX IAP is taking claims under these circumstances (route suspended and notification of change-ability, but no notification of flight cancellation)?
KLM purchased directly through their website. Dates are June 8th and June 2th. If your flights are out of hte US you are entitled to a full refund based on the DOT ruling. You just need to wait for your cancellation. This is on the website.
#254
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: AMS
Posts: 571
I must have missed that then, when global policy was originally introduced I haven't noticed any country-based exceptions. But now we effectively have 3 countries with special provisions, and I suspect, based on what you say, only US is due to government authorities putting pressure. Talking about consistency...
#255
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 13,132
Yep, I'm planning to wait until the flight's are cancelled to contact AMEX. Though I'm still wondering whether AF is sending emails.