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Between 1 September 2013 and 31 March 2018 the co-branded Gold & Platinum Flying Blue American Express cards also gave you Level Miles for purchases at AF/KL.
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
- Silver: 15XP;
- Gold: 30 XP
- Platinum: 60 XP
Co-branded American Express cards: France and the Netherlands
#436
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Paris
Programs: FB Platinum, All Accor Platinum
Posts: 532
I have the FR Air France gold card and just applied to the regular gold amex.
I can confirm that I received the 20000 amex rewards points with my first purchase.
I applied for the card online from a referral and added the card to the same online account than my gold Air France card.
I can confirm that I received the 20000 amex rewards points with my first purchase.
I applied for the card online from a referral and added the card to the same online account than my gold Air France card.
i got 145k MR for free!! (through referrals)
#437
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 281
I am not FB Platinum, but as i am starting a new job in April with some business trips in Europe (around twice a month), I was wondering if I'd rather apply for the Platinum Amex instead of the Platinum AF one ?
to benefit from the access to the airport lounges.
As for the FB miles, i could still convert MR points into miles, but i'll lose the benefit of extending my FB miles validity by 2 years, am i correct ?
both cards cost pretty much the same each year but the AF does not offer the priority pass
or... i stick to my Amex AF Gold for which i pay no annual fee and I keep accumulating FB miles with my expenses
to benefit from the access to the airport lounges.
As for the FB miles, i could still convert MR points into miles, but i'll lose the benefit of extending my FB miles validity by 2 years, am i correct ?
both cards cost pretty much the same each year but the AF does not offer the priority pass
or... i stick to my Amex AF Gold for which i pay no annual fee and I keep accumulating FB miles with my expenses
#438
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum | Shangri La Jade |Hilton Gold | Marriott Gold | WY gold |
Posts: 106
I am not FB Platinum, but as i am starting a new job in April with some business trips in Europe (around twice a month), I was wondering if I'd rather apply for the Platinum Amex instead of the Platinum AF one ?
to benefit from the access to the airport lounges.
As for the FB miles, i could still convert MR points into miles, but i'll lose the benefit of extending my FB miles validity by 2 years, am i correct ?
both cards cost pretty much the same each year but the AF does not offer the priority pass
or... i stick to my Amex AF Gold for which i pay no annual fee and I keep accumulating FB miles with my expenses
to benefit from the access to the airport lounges.
As for the FB miles, i could still convert MR points into miles, but i'll lose the benefit of extending my FB miles validity by 2 years, am i correct ?
both cards cost pretty much the same each year but the AF does not offer the priority pass
or... i stick to my Amex AF Gold for which i pay no annual fee and I keep accumulating FB miles with my expenses
My plan is to ask for the card for a free trial later this year, and see what the benefits really are, comparing hotels with Booking.com and airfares with the best deals offered by airlines directly.
#439
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Accor Plat, IHG Diamond
Posts: 651
I am not FB Platinum, but as i am starting a new job in April with some business trips in Europe (around twice a month), I was wondering if I'd rather apply for the Platinum Amex instead of the Platinum AF one ?
to benefit from the access to the airport lounges.
As for the FB miles, i could still convert MR points into miles, but i'll lose the benefit of extending my FB miles validity by 2 years, am i correct ?
both cards cost pretty much the same each year but the AF does not offer the priority pass
or... i stick to my Amex AF Gold for which i pay no annual fee and I keep accumulating FB miles with my expenses
to benefit from the access to the airport lounges.
As for the FB miles, i could still convert MR points into miles, but i'll lose the benefit of extending my FB miles validity by 2 years, am i correct ?
both cards cost pretty much the same each year but the AF does not offer the priority pass
or... i stick to my Amex AF Gold for which i pay no annual fee and I keep accumulating FB miles with my expenses
If flying often on AF between Paris CDG and Nantes, they a priority pass will not help at all (no lounge in Nantes or in CDG 2F).
In general, if you intend on flying Air France from CDG then priority pass doesn't really help. Air France European flights usually depart from CDG 2F or CDG 2G where the only lounges are Air France lounges, so you need to be at least gold with AF to access them.
If you are looking for lounge access in this case, the AF Amex cards will give you extra XP that could be valuable to climb levels with Air France.
My Priority pass account tells me that I have used it approx. 50 times last year, so for me it is a usefull benefit.
It seems like you can get a free supplementary Amex Platinum card with your main one, so your partner can have one and I assume that they would also get a priority pass with it too, so you could both enter for free when travelling for leisure.
If you are flying a lot, then the validity of your miles shouldn't be a problem as they will be extended with flying.
#440
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,063
I am Pt FB, but have very few benefits from th ecard (as i wrote before). Yesterday I has a good look at the classic gold card. This card comes with hotel benefits too. However, if you don't have the card, you cannot see the benefits. AMEX sales was friendly, but had no clue. I BELIEVE, that the Pt card has wider hotel benefits, but I find AMEX advertisement too good to be to believe at face value. Substantial value vouchers for food/services in the hotels. I also got the impression thatthe hotels are in the top market segment, where I only stay by exception.
My plan is to ask for the card for a free trial later this year, and see what the benefits really are, comparing hotels with Booking.com and airfares with the best deals offered by airlines directly.
My plan is to ask for the card for a free trial later this year, and see what the benefits really are, comparing hotels with Booking.com and airfares with the best deals offered by airlines directly.
I can tell you that so far, I haven't seen savings on airfare against airline websites, but haven't checked too much. For hotels, I've seen ones that are over public prices, but also that are way below, like 25 EUR night instead of 90 EUR night rates.
#441
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 281
I am Pt FB, but have very few benefits from th ecard (as i wrote before). Yesterday I has a good look at the classic gold card. This card comes with hotel benefits too. However, if you don't have the card, you cannot see the benefits. AMEX sales was friendly, but had no clue. I BELIEVE, that the Pt card has wider hotel benefits, but I find AMEX advertisement too good to be to believe at face value. Substantial value vouchers for food/services in the hotels. I also got the impression thatthe hotels are in the top market segment, where I only stay by exception.
My plan is to ask for the card for a free trial later this year, and see what the benefits really are, comparing hotels with Booking.com and airfares with the best deals offered by airlines directly.
My plan is to ask for the card for a free trial later this year, and see what the benefits really are, comparing hotels with Booking.com and airfares with the best deals offered by airlines directly.
when we don't own a card, we cannot see all the benefits
Amex' public pages do not list the real benefits of each card
in the end, it seems to me that regular Amex cards have better benefits than Amex Air France cards
#442
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 281
You will need to look at your common airports to help make a decision.
If flying often on AF between Paris CDG and Nantes, they a priority pass will not help at all (no lounge in Nantes or in CDG 2F).
In general, if you intend on flying Air France from CDG then priority pass doesn't really help. Air France European flights usually depart from CDG 2F or CDG 2G where the only lounges are Air France lounges, so you need to be at least gold with AF to access them.
If you are looking for lounge access in this case, the AF Amex cards will give you extra XP that could be valuable to climb levels with Air France.
My Priority pass account tells me that I have used it approx. 50 times last year, so for me it is a usefull benefit.
It seems like you can get a free supplementary Amex Platinum card with your main one, so your partner can have one and I assume that they would also get a priority pass with it too, so you could both enter for free when travelling for leisure.
If you are flying a lot, then the validity of your miles shouldn't be a problem as they will be extended with flying.
If flying often on AF between Paris CDG and Nantes, they a priority pass will not help at all (no lounge in Nantes or in CDG 2F).
In general, if you intend on flying Air France from CDG then priority pass doesn't really help. Air France European flights usually depart from CDG 2F or CDG 2G where the only lounges are Air France lounges, so you need to be at least gold with AF to access them.
If you are looking for lounge access in this case, the AF Amex cards will give you extra XP that could be valuable to climb levels with Air France.
My Priority pass account tells me that I have used it approx. 50 times last year, so for me it is a usefull benefit.
It seems like you can get a free supplementary Amex Platinum card with your main one, so your partner can have one and I assume that they would also get a priority pass with it too, so you could both enter for free when travelling for leisure.
If you are flying a lot, then the validity of your miles shouldn't be a problem as they will be extended with flying.
I guess that I won't be flying a lot from Roissy CDG because it's not very convenient, so having the priority pass won't be very useful
too bad the Amex cards do not grant any status...
#443
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Singapore
Programs: FB Gold
Posts: 59
I find FHR to be the most valuable benefit of Platinum cards. Free breakfast alone at 5-star properties for 2 is worth ~$80 per night. Sometimes the 3rd or 4th night is free too.
#444
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 281
which card has high status match at Accor ? if so, which status ?
#445
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: France
Programs: FB Plat for Life, UAMP, BAEC, Accor ALL Platinum, Marriott silver, Hilton, Meliá silver.
Posts: 3,120
I will be living in Rennes next month (airport also operated by VINCI Airports like Nantes = no lounge)
I guess that I won't be flying a lot from Roissy CDG because it's not very convenient, so having the priority pass won't be very useful
too bad the Amex cards do not grant any status...
I guess that I won't be flying a lot from Roissy CDG because it's not very convenient, so having the priority pass won't be very useful
too bad the Amex cards do not grant any status...
#447
#448
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: France
Programs: FB Plat for Life, UAMP, BAEC, Accor ALL Platinum, Marriott silver, Hilton, Meliá silver.
Posts: 3,120
I stand corrected on this point. I had made a generic answer without checking first for ORY.
Haven't some TGV Air routes opened through ORY with taxi transfer to and from Massy? Could be the case from RNS...
Haven't some TGV Air routes opened through ORY with taxi transfer to and from Massy? Could be the case from RNS...
Last edited by carnarvon; Mar 6, 2019 at 11:43 pm
#449
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: France
Programs: FB Plat for Life, UAMP, BAEC, Accor ALL Platinum, Marriott silver, Hilton, Meliá silver.
Posts: 3,120
Priority pass is ALWAYS useless in CDG when flying AF.
Regarding short transit times, how can you be sure ?
Then what about irrops? This is very handy to have a confortable seat in a lounge when your connecting flight is delayed.
Then, what about TGV Air? I have not checked, but there must be numerous opportunities to take the TGV to CDG then connect. In which case TT can be longer.
RNS to AMS to XYZ means access to Crown lounge is a nice thing to have.
As a result, even in the absence of a lounge in RNS, access to AFKL lounges is useful for a FF residing in Rennes.
#450
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 281
which card would you recommend in my case then ? regular Plat Amex ?
priority pass seems to allow access in CDG only at a limited number of lounges
https://www.prioritypass.com/fr/loun...rles-de-gaulle
not the AF ones ?
priority pass seems to allow access in CDG only at a limited number of lounges
https://www.prioritypass.com/fr/loun...rles-de-gaulle
not the AF ones ?