Nov 4, 2013, 1:57 pm
Last edit by: Gajan
Between 1 September 2013 and 31 March 2018 the co-branded Gold & Platinum Flying Blue American Express cards also gave you Level Miles for purchases at AF/KL.
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
- Silver: 15XP;
- Gold: 30 XP
- Platinum: 60 XP
Co-branded American Express cards: France and the Netherlands
Oct 4, 2013, 10:18 am
#151
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I remember that Carlson WagonLit used to bill their fees directly on the CC with another line "Air France" with the strict price of the ticket.
And I did have the appropriate mileage credited (2 qualif miles for 1 euro with the French AFKL AMEX Plat).
So you'd better check with your TA.
Oct 5, 2013, 10:11 am
#152
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Oct 5, 2013, 4:01 pm
#153
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From my own experience, it really depends from TA to TA.
I remember that Carlson WagonLit used to bill their fees directly on the CC with another line "Air France" with the strict price of the ticket.
And I did have the appropriate mileage credited (2 qualif miles for 1 euro with the French AFKL AMEX Plat).
So you'd better check with your TA.
I remember that Carlson WagonLit used to bill their fees directly on the CC with another line "Air France" with the strict price of the ticket.
And I did have the appropriate mileage credited (2 qualif miles for 1 euro with the French AFKL AMEX Plat).
So you'd better check with your TA.
Oct 6, 2013, 1:25 pm
#154
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Does spend on the AFKL Amex card on AFKL flights that passes through a travel agent count towards status miles?
I happened to call Amex - to split the payments into 3 (update on how later) and they said that the payment MUST be to AF (I was calling in French) and through a TMC does not count.
Personally, I do not mind as I arrange my own business travel but some may find this frustrating.
On the "pay over 3 months option" it seems you have to call them once the ticket is issued and amount appears on your statement but before you statement is issued. I have a 2 day window on this next week. Better set a reminder in my calendar.
I happened to call Amex - to split the payments into 3 (update on how later) and they said that the payment MUST be to AF (I was calling in French) and through a TMC does not count.
Personally, I do not mind as I arrange my own business travel but some may find this frustrating.
On the "pay over 3 months option" it seems you have to call them once the ticket is issued and amount appears on your statement but before you statement is issued. I have a 2 day window on this next week. Better set a reminder in my calendar.
Oct 7, 2013, 2:15 am
#155
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Well, when "Air France" is clearly indicated on your CC statement, the payment actually goes directly to AF.
Oct 8, 2013, 11:41 am
#156
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The rules are rather vague in my view and not well presented on the respective websites.
Both AMEX and KLM used to (perhaps still) say that to qualify one should fly AF/KLM. Nowhere was it to be seen that tickets had to be bought via a an AF or KLM sales channel, which excludes agents like eBookers etc.
Both AMEX and KLM used to (perhaps still) say that to qualify one should fly AF/KLM. Nowhere was it to be seen that tickets had to be bought via a an AF or KLM sales channel, which excludes agents like eBookers etc.
Oct 8, 2013, 12:45 pm
#157
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well, concerning the miles, it is mentioned on Amex' website that a third party could sell an AF ticket if it is registered under AF code, i assume that it is related somehow to the GDS ID
as for the payment split into 3, only the 2 websites AF-KLM allow this benefit
as for the payment split into 3, only the 2 websites AF-KLM allow this benefit
Oct 8, 2013, 1:25 pm
#158
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Oct 8, 2013, 2:05 pm
#159
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That's not true. I have split payment for AF/KL tickets bought through Expedia, for example. You can do it online, you only need to have the charge appear as an airline ticket with a 057- or 074- stock (too bad it doesn't work for 006- as well!).
Oct 9, 2013, 2:06 am
#160
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However, when I complained, they awarded me the missing miles (as a one time courtesy).
Oct 9, 2013, 4:28 am
#161
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True, and LeClub is able to issue tickets on a 057-stock for all Airlines for which Air France as an interline agreement.
Oct 9, 2013, 4:34 am
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both times, the option never appeared in my Amex account
therefore i called Amex and they told me that the feature didn't concern third party website as part of the agreement between Amex and AF-KLM
in the meantime, this has probably changed ???
Oct 9, 2013, 3:52 pm
#163
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No miles-status for me...
Yes, for tickets bought on september 1st:
Miles sur depenses AF/KLM xxxxx 10 Euros = 20 Miles
It is not written as EQM on Amex statement (although separate) but it is marked as EQM (and separate also) on the FB statement of the month:
26-09-2013 CARTE AMEX PLATINUM - DEPENSES AF KLM xxxxx
Miles sur depenses AF/KLM xxxxx 10 Euros = 20 Miles
It is not written as EQM on Amex statement (although separate) but it is marked as EQM (and separate also) on the FB statement of the month:
26-09-2013 CARTE AMEX PLATINUM - DEPENSES AF KLM xxxxx
In my case, this hasn't appeared as Miles-Status in the FB Statement of the month (for october) although it does appear correctly as 'Miles sur depenses AF/KLM' on my Amex Statement.
(I did buy my ticket directly with AF)
Am I the only one that has this problem?
Oct 10, 2013, 4:38 am
#164
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First Level miles posted
First level miles just posted to my account. Dutch FB Amex Gold.
Purchase was a FB reward ticket for Feb 2014, so not many but better than nothing.
Wondering what will happen if you cancel your purchase..
Purchase was a FB reward ticket for Feb 2014, so not many but better than nothing.
Wondering what will happen if you cancel your purchase..
Oct 10, 2013, 6:53 am
#165
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They usually keep several and independant miles meters on your card account :
- miles related to regular expenses
- miles related to AF/KL expenses
- bonus miles
- miles related to regular expenses
- miles related to AF/KL expenses
- bonus miles