Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
Jun 7, 2022, 3:44 pm
#1126
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Has anyone here had any experience linking a separate DL ticket to an AF LP (award) ticket? This would be LAX-SFO on DL connecting five hours later to SFO-CDG LP on AF. Wondering if there would be any (LP) benefit to linking (or trying to link) the two? Can't find it now but I thought I recall someone reporting a DL 360 vehicle meeting an LP pax although it might have been LAX.
Jun 7, 2022, 8:17 pm
#1127
Join Date: May 2021
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Posts: 646
Has anyone here had any experience linking a separate DL ticket to an AF LP (award) ticket? This would be LAX-SFO on DL connecting five hours later to SFO-CDG LP on AF. Wondering if there would be any (LP) benefit to linking (or trying to link) the two? Can't find it now but I thought I recall someone reporting a DL 360 vehicle meeting an LP pax although it might have been LAX.
Jun 8, 2022, 9:22 am
#1128
Join Date: May 2021
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Posts: 646
Recently, I took my very first LP flight and wanted to share my experience notwithstanding full details so that I can stay a bit anon. The flight was probably one of the best flight I've ever flown on commercial and would say that it was far better than my Emirates flights. Even though it was a full cabin both ways, the LP FA on each of my flight were splendid and made sure to take care of each passenger with undivided attention and made sure everything was alright. I had pleasant conversations with them and it seemed as if they wanted me to be onboard.
However, the ground service was not great to say the least. I was ignored at the lounges at JFK and CDG on my outbound leg by the attendants. At CDG, I was ghosted the entire time and on my way back at CDG, one of the head waiters had talk behind my back questioning my choice in having coquillettes and foie gras at 10 am.
Would I fly LP again? Yes, for the on-board service and the flight itself. Sure the problems on the ground are first world problems, but having paid full fare in cash, I would expect to be at least treated with some basic courtesy at the lounges as well.
Anyways, here are some pics from my journey. Forgot to take pics from JFK-CDG.
A KLM 787 was passing by
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However, the ground service was not great to say the least. I was ignored at the lounges at JFK and CDG on my outbound leg by the attendants. At CDG, I was ghosted the entire time and on my way back at CDG, one of the head waiters had talk behind my back questioning my choice in having coquillettes and foie gras at 10 am.
Would I fly LP again? Yes, for the on-board service and the flight itself. Sure the problems on the ground are first world problems, but having paid full fare in cash, I would expect to be at least treated with some basic courtesy at the lounges as well.
Anyways, here are some pics from my journey. Forgot to take pics from JFK-CDG.
A KLM 787 was passing by
.
Jun 8, 2022, 9:31 am
#1129
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Jun 8, 2022, 9:36 am
#1130
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That is very surprising as I always have coquillettes (with wine or champagne) for breakfast, sometimes as early as 7am. I know that I'm not alone and none of the wait staff has ever questioned my selection obsession. Indeed, the staff seems to anticipate a lot of requests for breakfast coquillettes.
At least the LP lounge isn't like the lounges at JFK where New York laws prohibit alcohol being served before 10:30am.
Jun 8, 2022, 10:47 am
#1131
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,924
Nice report physicsdude . I’m glad you enjoyed the flights and too bad about your experience at both lounges. I’ve had great service at both ends of JFK/CDG but all it takes is a bad apple.
Jun 8, 2022, 10:51 am
#1132
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,924
In most any lounge when I am ordering dinner food or alcohol at 7am local time, I always let them know that my body clock is at dinner time. Even though they should comprehend time zones in an airport lounge, I have always found that mentioning this helps.
At least the LP lounge isn't like the lounges at JFK where New York laws prohibit alcohol being served before 10:30am.
At least the LP lounge isn't like the lounges at JFK where New York laws prohibit alcohol being served before 10:30am.
Jun 16, 2022, 11:39 am
#1133
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AFKL Flying Blue Platinum Ultimate, Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador Elite
Posts: 369
I have booked a crazy trip from GVA to HNL in La Premiere via CDG LAX. Do you know what should I expect in LAX when doing security and connecting to Delta?
Also, I have an overnight in Paris. Do you know if it's possible to get (or book) a Hertz Driver in this case?
Maybe a note is that I upgraded a C class with miles, actually. I'm suspecting the "experience" in this case might be lower than a full paid F.
Also, I have an overnight in Paris. Do you know if it's possible to get (or book) a Hertz Driver in this case?
Maybe a note is that I upgraded a C class with miles, actually. I'm suspecting the "experience" in this case might be lower than a full paid F.
Jun 16, 2022, 11:53 am
#1134
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Jun 16, 2022, 6:50 pm
#1135
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 94
Air France has opened a new private area specially designed for La Première customers, in the Air France-KLM lounge at Geneva airport.
This area, equipped with light-coloured furniture, is designed to offer customers calm, serenity and ensure their privacy. La Première customers can also enjoy something to eat and drink and general service excellence. This new service is in addition to those already offered by the Company for La Première customers travelling from Geneva.
A free limousine service with chauffeur
Air France's La Première customers travelling from Geneva can now enjoy a free limousine service with chauffeur. This service is offered within a radius of 190 km around Geneva airport, for all tickets purchased in Switzerland.
Customers benefit from a quiet and comfortable journey in a Mercedes E Class to and from the airport. On board the vehicle, they have an Internet connection and a selection of newspapers and magazines.
Reservations must be made no later than 48 hours before flight departure via the Air France La Première service.
New reception area and personalized service
On arrival at Geneva airport, La Première customers are greeted by La Première agents in a specially dedicated area. They are then escorted through security to the private area of the Air France-KLM lounge.
When it's time to board, an agent also accompanies them on board and presents them to the crew.
This area, equipped with light-coloured furniture, is designed to offer customers calm, serenity and ensure their privacy. La Première customers can also enjoy something to eat and drink and general service excellence. This new service is in addition to those already offered by the Company for La Première customers travelling from Geneva.
A free limousine service with chauffeur
Air France's La Première customers travelling from Geneva can now enjoy a free limousine service with chauffeur. This service is offered within a radius of 190 km around Geneva airport, for all tickets purchased in Switzerland.
Customers benefit from a quiet and comfortable journey in a Mercedes E Class to and from the airport. On board the vehicle, they have an Internet connection and a selection of newspapers and magazines.
Reservations must be made no later than 48 hours before flight departure via the Air France La Première service.
New reception area and personalized service
On arrival at Geneva airport, La Première customers are greeted by La Première agents in a specially dedicated area. They are then escorted through security to the private area of the Air France-KLM lounge.
When it's time to board, an agent also accompanies them on board and presents them to the crew.
Jun 17, 2022, 9:52 am
#1138
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Posts: 7,836
Don't expect too much.
It is four lounge chairs, separated from the reception desk by a library shelf, with a small fridge and snacks area that is just as poor as the rest of the food offering of the lounge. You still see and hear the rest of the lounge. When I last used it the space was just invaded by other people, the lounge staff didn't really "police" access.
Pleasant in comparison to the rest of the lounge because it feels more private, but hardly worth any excitement and a place to come to the airport early for. It's not a GVA satellite of the CDG Salon Premiere.
It is four lounge chairs, separated from the reception desk by a library shelf, with a small fridge and snacks area that is just as poor as the rest of the food offering of the lounge. You still see and hear the rest of the lounge. When I last used it the space was just invaded by other people, the lounge staff didn't really "police" access.
Pleasant in comparison to the rest of the lounge because it feels more private, but hardly worth any excitement and a place to come to the airport early for. It's not a GVA satellite of the CDG Salon Premiere.
Jun 18, 2022, 10:41 pm
#1139
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: AMS / LOP
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Posts: 482
Later this year I will finally fly La Première for the first time from JNB.
Just a simple question: wich lounge do they use at JNB for P pax? The SLOW lounge? I can also use the VS lounge with Amex, but I have no idea of any of this lounges are good.
Just a simple question: wich lounge do they use at JNB for P pax? The SLOW lounge? I can also use the VS lounge with Amex, but I have no idea of any of this lounges are good.
Jun 18, 2022, 11:29 pm
#1140
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