Jan 31, 2024, 5:20 pm
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In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,Mexico City*, Sao Paulo and Dubai.
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
In 2024, customers will find La Premiere on to 11 destinations.
La Premiere is available if you are flying to Tokyo, Los Angeles, San Francisco, New-York City (JFK), Washington DC, Miami, Abidjan, Singapore,
*Please note that Air France will discontinue the La Premiere service on the Mexico City (MEX) route on the 31st of March.
In 2024, you will find La Premiere on the following flights :
(All flights are in / out of Paris CDG. Exact timing varies during the year. These times are based on departures and arrivals in the month of May or August (middle of 2024)).
From Paris to New York City (JFK) :
AF4 10:30 - 12:45
AF6 13:30 - 15:50
AF8 16:30 - 18:50 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF10 18:30 - 20:40 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From New York City (JFK) to Paris :
AF1 16:30 - 05:55+1
AF5 18:30 - 08:05+1
AF7 21:30 - 11:05+1 (This flight does not systematically offer P Product)
AF9 23:15 - 12:40+1 (This flight will not offer P product after the month of June)
From Paris to Los Angeles (LAX) :
AF20 08:45 - 11:25 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF22 10:40 - 13:05
AF24 13:30 - 16:05
From Los Angeles (LAX) to Paris :
AF21 13:40 - 09:20+1 (P Product on this flight only in July and August)
AF23 15:20 - 11:15+1
AF25 18:30 - 14:20+1
From Paris to San Francisco (SFO) :
AF84 10:15 - 12:45
From San Francisco (SFO) to Paris :
AF83 15:00 - 10:50+1
From Paris to Abidjan (ABJ) :
AF702 14:35 - 18:55
From Abidjan (ABJ) to Paris :
AF703 21:30 - 05:55+1
From Paris to Singapore (SIN) :
AF256 21:15 - 16:30+1
From Singapore (SIN) to Paris :
AF257 22:30 - 06:10+1
From Paris to Miami (MIA) :
AF90 14:05 - 17:55
From Miami (MIA) to Paris :
AF99 20:15 - 11:15+1
From Paris to Tokyo Haneda (HND) :
AF274 22:00 - 18:30+1
From Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Paris :
AF293 00:05 - 07:55
From Paris to Washington (IAD) :
AF54 14:00 - 16:21
From Washington (IAD) to Paris :
AF55 18:45 - 08:05+1
From Paris to Sao Paulo (GRU) :
AF460 10:10 - 16:45
From Sao Paulo (GRU) to Paris :
AF459 18:55 - 11:05+1
From Paris to Dubai (DXB) :
AF662 13:45 - 22:25
From Dubai (DXB) to Paris :
AF655 00:40 - 06:00
From Paris to Mexico City (MEX) :
AF178 11:35 - 16:55 (ends in March)
From Mexico City (MEX) to Paris :
AF179 19:55 - 14:35+1 (ends in March)
Previously this travel class was available on the 772 too.
These flights are operated by a fleet of 19 specific 777-300ER (F-GSQA/B/C/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/U/V/Y and F-GZNA/B/C/D, and E)
Other routes that previously operated La Premiere service but are now terminated (as P service) included Osaka, Lagos, Beijing, Atlanta, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Houston, Montreal and Johannesburg. (Or even the overnight flight to Sao Paulo for example.)
AF « La Première » Outlook
May 10, 2023, 8:23 am
#1876
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Paris and around the WW
Programs: AF/KLM Club2000 Ultimate / M&M HON Circle / ALL Diamond / Hertz President Circle
Posts: 1,040
I just booked a round trip in P (CDG - SIN) for new year for 653 K miles
Same ticket in J was 980 K
My wife will benefit from my J Ulti coupon and she will probably take my seats in P
Round trip ticket in Y for her (Light rate) was over 2 k€
May 10, 2023, 8:25 am
#1877
Join Date: Jun 2020
Programs: FlyingBlue
Posts: 2,424
May 10, 2023, 8:31 am
#1878
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Paris and around the WW
Programs: AF/KLM Club2000 Ultimate / M&M HON Circle / ALL Diamond / Hertz President Circle
Posts: 1,040
May 10, 2023, 10:19 pm
#1882
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: UA 1K, AA Plat Pro, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,048
Sad news in our household as I had to cancel our LP mileage bookings for next month and as a lowly FB Gold member, I am unable to make any new bookings. End of an era for our family, but we did get two flights for the three of us over the last 10 months (including on January 2nd which was clutch).
I am probably somewhat of an outlier here as I valued the in-flight experience more than others seemingly while I didn't think the lounge was that great. Maybe we got lucky on our two flights both departing from CDG?
Funny thing is I will still credit any domestic flights I take on Delta to FB because they are better than Delta when it comes to award flights to asia on China Airlines and have some other good partners.
I am probably somewhat of an outlier here as I valued the in-flight experience more than others seemingly while I didn't think the lounge was that great. Maybe we got lucky on our two flights both departing from CDG?
Funny thing is I will still credit any domestic flights I take on Delta to FB because they are better than Delta when it comes to award flights to asia on China Airlines and have some other good partners.
May 11, 2023, 10:55 am
#1883
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SF
Programs: UA MM, AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTP, HH Dia
Posts: 1,132
Same boat here... did you ask to switch dates or just outright cancel? I've had some minor schedule changes on a roundtrip LP award ticket ex-SFO with my wife for flights we likely cannot take. Not holding my breath, but no downside to asking. Any Golds had luck getting them to change dates on an existing booking?
May 11, 2023, 11:41 am
#1884
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,924
From AF's perspective, it's not if you live by the mantra that "there's a sucker born every minute", which seems like their m/o these days for P and J award tickets. Fine for them but I'm not going to play that game. And I doubt anyone with half a brain will pay 931500 miles and 482 E for that ticket but to each his own.
May 11, 2023, 11:45 am
#1885
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Paris and around the WW
Programs: AF/KLM Club2000 Ultimate / M&M HON Circle / ALL Diamond / Hertz President Circle
Posts: 1,040
From AF's perspective, it's not if you live by the mantra that "there's a sucker born every minute", which seems like their m/o these days for P and J award tickets. Fine for them but I'm not going to play that game. And I doubt anyone with half a brain will pay 931500 miles and 482 E for that ticket but to each his own.
With over 2 M. miles earned exclusively by flying, I just paid 630K miles for a CDG-SIN round trip in P but there's no way I would pay more than that. It's already to me above what I find reasonable.
For ex, I flew CDG - JNB last march in P for 430K miles which makes more sense.
I used to fly P to MEX, GRU & JFK pretty often but recent prices increases forced me to look at alternatives. Above 8 k€ is my limit so far and I am not willing to pay more (my shareholders neither...
)
May 11, 2023, 2:48 pm
#1886
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,051
Fully agree
With over 2 M. miles earned exclusively by flying, I just paid 630K miles for a CDG-SIN round trip in P but there's no way I would pay more than that. It's already to me above what I find reasonable.
For ex, I flew CDG - JNB last march in P for 430K miles which makes more sense.
I used to fly P to MEX, GRU & JFK pretty often but recent prices increases forced me to look at alternatives. Above 8 k€ is my limit so far and I am not willing to pay more (my shareholders neither...)
With over 2 M. miles earned exclusively by flying, I just paid 630K miles for a CDG-SIN round trip in P but there's no way I would pay more than that. It's already to me above what I find reasonable.
For ex, I flew CDG - JNB last march in P for 430K miles which makes more sense.
I used to fly P to MEX, GRU & JFK pretty often but recent prices increases forced me to look at alternatives. Above 8 k€ is my limit so far and I am not willing to pay more (my shareholders neither...
)
May 11, 2023, 8:02 pm
#1887
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: UA 1K, AA Plat Pro, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,048
Same boat here... did you ask to switch dates or just outright cancel? I've had some minor schedule changes on a roundtrip LP award ticket ex-SFO with my wife for flights we likely cannot take. Not holding my breath, but no downside to asking. Any Golds had luck getting them to change dates on an existing booking?
May 12, 2023, 2:46 am
#1888
Suspended
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,593
Fully agree
With over 2 M. miles earned exclusively by flying, I just paid 630K miles for a CDG-SIN round trip in P but there's no way I would pay more than that. It's already to me above what I find reasonable.
For ex, I flew CDG - JNB last march in P for 430K miles which makes more sense.
I used to fly P to MEX, GRU & JFK pretty often but recent prices increases forced me to look at alternatives. Above 8 k€ is my limit so far and I am not willing to pay more (my shareholders neither...)
With over 2 M. miles earned exclusively by flying, I just paid 630K miles for a CDG-SIN round trip in P but there's no way I would pay more than that. It's already to me above what I find reasonable.
For ex, I flew CDG - JNB last march in P for 430K miles which makes more sense.
I used to fly P to MEX, GRU & JFK pretty often but recent prices increases forced me to look at alternatives. Above 8 k€ is my limit so far and I am not willing to pay more (my shareholders neither...
)Out of curiosity, how long did it take you to ear 2M miles ?
Because 630K is almost a third of your total miles earnings, which is a huge one-shot miles redemption. How much would it be in full cash? above 8k ?
May 12, 2023, 2:50 am
#1889
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Paris and around the WW
Programs: AF/KLM Club2000 Ultimate / M&M HON Circle / ALL Diamond / Hertz President Circle
Posts: 1,040
For this specific ticket, it was more an "extra effort" to make my wife enjoy P
And we can both of us enjoy P ground services & P lounge access
Last edited by matmatlr; May 12, 2023 at 3:59 am
May 12, 2023, 5:08 pm
#1890
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
Programs: AF Platinum, EK Gold, AA EXP, UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 21,603
Mrs. SFO777 and I just departed AF65 from LAX-CDG and other than the Millésime, the wine list is just garbage.
On an amusing note, we encountered the best and most brazen self-upgrade attempt I've ever seen. We boarded thru 1L to find our 1EF occupied by a couple enjoying a glass of Millésime. After they were evicted, out of curiosity I walked back thru the cabin to find where they were sitting... Premium Economy seats 24G/24E.