Has AC provided any more information regarding Z fares to Europe (ie. rules, restrictions, mileage earning)?

http://www.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/o...tner=AirCanada

from here it appears that Z fares earn the same as J,C.

I have been able to find Z availability and pricing to some destinations in Europe on AC thus making it bookable now...but I don't want to pull the trigger before I know what I am buying.

Is post #1 being kept up to date? It says Tourist has no advance seat selection, but AC's website says it's free.

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Any definitive answer as to whether K and N class fares from the US to UK earn miles ? I have seen the question asked several times, but have yet to see a conclusive answer.

The AirCanada.com website "Canadian Edition" still states
( sometimes ) on the Review Flight Details page "Your Economy Fare includes Air Canada Status Miles for flying with us 100% ". It doesn't give you this message on every flight search. Right now it is giving that message on a IAH - LHR flight search in November. Earlier this afternoon it was giving that message on a SEA - LHR flight search in March of 2008.

Thanks very much.

Yes I would be curious to see the rules with a Z fare as well. I heard a rumour it maybe the "new" C21.... who knows ;-)

I believe it is a 7 day advance purchase, the booking code I get is like z7msca of something like that. I am getting the impression that it is currently being used to get people to route through LHR...for a trip I am looking at, I can connect in LHR or Germany, but the LHR flights are the only ones I am finding where Z is not zeroed out.

Actually, there are a number of different Z-class fares with varying advance purchase requirements:

[KVS Availability Tool 2.9.1/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/USD]
[KVS Availability Tool 2.9.1/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/ZUJ/SG/USD]

Actually, some of these Z fares are quite nice. Going from YYC to Europe at CAD 2605 including all of AC's "surcharges" and taxes is actually pretty good.

Now, if the SE line would have been able to tell me whether there is a change fee on the U fare that I will have to delay for another trip.... But I guess hoping for an answer to such a ssimple question at 9 pm YYC time is too much to hope for?

Do you actually want to know if your U fare has a change fee, or are you commenting on the SE desk?

Give us dates and routing and I'm sure someone could figure it out.

I did want to know, so I called the SE desk last night. They were not able to tell because Winnipeg was closed.

I wanted that information before I booked the new ticket, which was on a fare that expired at midnight. After waiting for an answer from the SE desk for about 20 minutes, I told the guy that it was enough; actually he was nice and he was still willing to try. But time was getting short on buying the new ticket, so I took a chance. Most U fare have no change fee, and if there is one, it's probably $100 orso. Which I can live with. Web warns about some M having a change fee, not U BTW.

Point remains that their own agents have a difficult time finding fare rules these days. Really, business model is ever more predicated upon people buying very restricted fares, and customers paying higher fares for flexibility and/or upgradeability seem to fall through the cracks.

In the past, I have also been in situations whereby when inquiring I was told there is a fee, but when actually changing, being told the fare had no change fee.

Z fares have been posted to Asia (I've seen HKG, KIX, andNRT) from both YVR and YYZ. Z14MSLWC for KIX and NRT from YVR - $3,818 (US). Sunday stayover required, 14 day advanced purchase and good from Oct 1 until the end of March. So reasonable for longer trips, but not that efficient for short (or short notice) business trips.

Unfortunately no Z fares to Souther America (all locations) that I can tell. So in my soon to be new position, it will be one of the following: I'll be flying in coach, we have one heck of a corporate discount (since J >$9K with AC), or we'll fly another carrier. But AC is switching BOG from a 767 to a 763 for a personal trip, so my postponed trip looks like it might be more comfortable since I=8 :) on the way down and M is only about $225 more than B. Can't find the returning flight on EF for some reason. In fact, can't find the trip at all on EF - it won't take YVR-BOG on AC. Possible because that the only "valid" routing on AC from YVR is a redeye with a 14 hour layover to boot.

How can you tell what booking class you are in. I'm looking at our e-ticket receipts and don't see anything except for the cabin service listed. Shouldn't it be on the ticket? :confused:

If you look under Fare Type column (to right of Aircraft column) on your itinerary part of your eticket you will see fare class as A, Q, L, V etc.

Andrew,

The first and third post could be updated to reflect the new meaning of Z-class.

The first post shows Z as "OTHERS non online only fares: Z – 0 Aeroplan miles. No standby permitted and not upgradeable."

The third one states "Z - for tour wholesalers (such as cruise lines or student tickets) where the airfare is sold as part of a tour package. Not eligible for upgrades by any tiers. No Aeroplan regular/status miles."

For Germany and Switzerland, H and B fares are still upgradeable with SWUs, as well as SSWUs.

Does anyone know how other *A carriers are crediting Z fares on AC now? Namely LH M&M or BMI - both of which normally give 100% bonus for Business, although the partner page on BMI looks like it doesn't do this for C (AC is the only airline listed this way - anyone know why?) and there is of course no mention of Z for AC.

I have found a Z-fare ex-South America I might use in December, and I'd like to figure out what would happen with credit. Thanks to anyone!