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Originally Posted by https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/book/travel-news-and-updates/2019/737-airspace-closure.html
If you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
Read below for more details.

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May 29, 2019
If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance
In compliance with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.Air Canada is now updating its May, June and July schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least September 02, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: "What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?". Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plansIf you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice. If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.

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March 19, 2019

UPDATED - INFORMATION ON IMPACTED ROUTES


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UPDATED - Air Canada Responds to Transport Canada's Closure of Canadian Airspace to the Boeing 737 MAX Aircraft

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html

March 19, 2019

If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance

In compliance with Transport Canada’s safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.

Air Canada is now updating its April and May schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least July 1, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: “What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?”. Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plans

If you currently have a reservation for a flight that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice.

If you purchased your ticket with Aeroplan, or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.


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March 13, 2019

Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible. Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres. Priority will be given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours. We appreciate our customers' patience.

If you'd like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section. We also advise you to check the status of your flight before heading to the airport.

We fully support Transport Canada's decision and will continue to work with them towards a resolution of this situation as soon as possible.

Alternate Travel Plans
If you currently have a reservation for a flight operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262).

If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your Travel agent, please contact them directly Some questions you may have are below with our answers, but if you can't find what you need, contact us at 1-888-247-2262, or reach out to us on on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines..

How many Boeing 737 MAX aircraft does Air Canada have?
Air Canada has a fleet of 24 Boeing 737 MAX-8 aircraft, which have been in operation since 2017. We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 737MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

Where do the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft fly to?
These aircraft operate flights across North America, to Mexico, the Caribbean, Hawaii, as well as from Atlantic Canada to London Heathrow.

How many Boeing 737 MAX flights are there each day, and how many passengers are affected?
We typically operate approximately 75 Boeing 737 MAX flights daily out of a total schedule of approximately 1,600 daily flights system-wide, representing less than six percent of our total flying.

We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 Boeing 737 MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?
We are making adjustments to our schedule to minimize the disruption to customers as much as possible, by optimizing the deployment of the rest of our fleet and looking at alternative options, including accommodating customers on other airlines.

As an example of some of our adjustments to Boeing 737 MAX flights cancelled, we have re-scheduled widebody aircraft to serve Hawaii starting today, March 13. Some flights will operate as scheduled with mainline or Air Canada Rouge aircraft, such as on Montreal-Martinique and Montreal-Guadeloupe. Other routes, notably Halifax-London and St. John's-London are cancelled in the short term, with customers being re-routed through our Montreal and Toronto hubs.

What should I do right now?
As changes are finalized in our flight schedule, customers whose flight times or flight numbers have changed can expect to receive an email detailing their updated itinerary. This information is also available in My Bookings on the Air Canada App.

If you are travelling soon, you can also contact us or your travel agent. Please understand that priority is being given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours.

We have also put in place a rebooking policy, space permitting, and without additional fees for affected customers. Given the magnitude of our Boeing 737 MAX operations, which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada's Call Centres.

Where can I go to for more information?
If you would like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section.

If you are travelling soon, you can contact us, reach out to our social media teams on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or call your travel agent.

We also advise you to check the status of your flight before going to the airport.

We thank all of our customers for their patience.

Will Air Canada cover my out-of-pocket expenses such as additional accommodation costs that I may incur as a result of these disruptions?
Our normal protocol for irregular events which are out of our control is in effect. We are regrettably unable to reimburse for such expenses.



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MONTREAL, March 13, 2019 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible but given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada call centres and we appreciate our customers' patience.

Customers are further advised to check the status of their flight on aircanada.com prior to going to the airport.

We fully support this decision and will continue to work with Transport Canada towards resolution of this situation as soon as possible.


SOURCE Air Canada

For further information: Isabelle Arthur (Montréal), [email protected], 514 422-5788; Peter Fitzpatrick (Toronto), [email protected], 416 263-5576; Angela Mah (Vancouver), [email protected], 604 270-5741; Internet: aircanada.com

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...7-MAX-Aircraft




https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...to-london.html

Originally Posted by ac.com
Information on Air Canada Halifax-London and St. John’s-London service

March 12, 2019

Due to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority banning all Boeing 737 Max aircraft operations in the U.K. Air Canada has cancelled the following flights:

AC 860 Halifax London-Heathrow on March 12
AC861 London-Halifax on March 13
AC822 St. John’s-London on March 13
AC823London-St. John’s on March 14

We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible through our Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa hubs.

Affected customers may contact Air Canada Reservations to change their flights to another date free of charge.

As well, due to anticipated call volumes, customers can expect delays reaching Air Canada call centres, so we appreciate our customers’ patience.

Air Canada will provide updates as more information becomes available.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 12:48 pm
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Yhz &yyt

Cancelling the yyt and yhz routes for a year is handing rather a bonus to WJ. They’ve maintained their seasonal yhz-lgw service using other 737 aircraft. I’ve flown 3 TATL connections through YHZ from YYT in the past month and all flights were full. For my part I’m damn glad the pre MaX grounding cost differential between AC direct yyt-lhr and WJ yyt-yhz-lgw was in the order of $4k for 5 tickets for my family trip. It would have been galling to pay a for direct flight and lose it - at the cost difference it was an easy decision to fly via Yhz!

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Old Jul 30, 2019, 12:58 pm
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Just noticed that Qatar is now operating a third flight for AC: YUL-BOD.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
Max is removed from the schedule until January 8, 2020, according to today's second quarter news release.
AC's web site says that schedules between 26 Oct. and 8 January will be updated "shortly".

Any thoughts about what will happen to the Hawaii services from YVR over the Christmas and New Year's holidays would be much appreciated!
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by transportprof
Any thoughts about what will happen to the Hawaii services from YVR over the Christmas and New Year's holidays would be much appreciated!
Are you asking on behalf of AC's route planning department? I imagine they've been tearing their hair out for a long time now.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by smallmj
Are you asking on behalf of AC's route planning department? I imagine they've been tearing their hair out for a long time now.
I'm booked on one of those day flights, but by all means, if FTers have any good ideas to share with AC's route planners, please do post them.

I know I would not be looking forward to a military style transport on Omni Air!
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by transportprof
I know I would not be looking forward to a military style transport on Omni Air!
There are plenty of alternative ways to get there, some of which are also nonstop. People may have to wean themselves from the teat of Altitude Qualifying Whatevers. Or march on over to Omni, don some fatigues and 'suck it up soldier'.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 10:32 pm
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Originally Posted by transportprof
AC's web site says that schedules between 26 Oct. and 8 January will be updated "shortly".

Any thoughts about what will happen to the Hawaii services from YVR over the Christmas and New Year's holidays would be much appreciated!
I have a booking on the morning flight in late Dec, afternoon return in late Jan. Just tried a dummy booking for those dates and it shows only the late flights with redeye return on the Omni 767. Then I checked My Bookings and it still shows the original flights. So it's a SNAFU: situation normal, all … up.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Sopwith
I have a booking on the morning flight in late Dec, afternoon return in late Jan. Just tried a dummy booking for those dates and it shows only the late flights with redeye return on the Omni 767. Then I checked My Bookings and it still shows the original flights. So it's a SNAFU: situation normal, all … up.
Still showing HNL flights with the MAX.
LIH flights appear cancelled now with no other AC options. So I guess if already ticketed will be stopping at HNL or OGG.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Sopwith
I have a booking on the morning flight in late Dec, afternoon return in late Jan. Just tried a dummy booking for those dates and it shows only the late flights with redeye return on the Omni 767. Then I checked My Bookings and it still shows the original flights. So it's a SNAFU: situation normal, all … up.
I feel you. I'm booked for the 27th October and my early a.m.flight has disappeared from the schedule. There is only 1 other non-stop alternative and the longer I'm made to wait the pricier it will get.
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Old Jul 31, 2019, 1:27 am
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Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer
There are plenty of alternative ways to get there, some of which are also nonstop. People may have to wean themselves from the teat of Altitude Qualifying Whatevers. Or march on over to Omni, don some fatigues and 'suck it up soldier'.
Just did the YVR-Hawaii route in Omni's J and frankly, I was pleasantly surprised. It certainly is far better than Rouge J and in many respects better that the -MAX J (IFE aside). I have no qualms about the return on Omni.
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Old Jul 31, 2019, 3:03 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
Just noticed that Qatar is now operating a third flight for AC: YUL-BOD.
This one appears to be a mistake. It has been on the table since June, yet flight still shows of as AC1908 ACRouge, unlike YUL-BCN which has been renumbered and shows as being operated by Qatar
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Old Jul 31, 2019, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by sweethannah
I feel you. I'm booked for the 27th October and my early a.m.flight has disappeared from the schedule. There is only 1 other non-stop alternative and the longer I'm made to wait the pricier it will get.
Upthread, people have written that AC will reticket bookings that suffer major disruptions (like shifting from day to overnight) on other airlines like UA. That should not involve paying more, if AC honours such an option. I guess that we will find out in the coming weeks.
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Old Jul 31, 2019, 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by transportprof
Upthread, people have written that AC will reticket bookings that suffer major disruptions (like shifting from day to overnight) on other airlines like UA. That should not involve paying more, if AC honours such an option. I guess that we will find out in the coming weeks.
I messaged AC and was advised they offer a full refund for changes over an hour but suggested I check with my.travel company as well.
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Old Jul 31, 2019, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by transportprof
Upthread, people have written that AC will reticket bookings that suffer major disruptions (like shifting from day to overnight) on other airlines like UA. That should not involve paying more, if AC honours such an option. I guess that we will find out in the coming weeks.
So will they rebook my AE award flights onto the daytime WS flights? I somehow doubt it, but one can hope, I suppose. Seems like a longshot.
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Old Jul 31, 2019, 10:12 pm
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No idea about reward flights unfortuntalely but in my case I'm hoping theyll just let me cancel for a full refund and then I can rebook elsewhere. Best of luck
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