Standby and Upgrade List
Apr 26, 2017, 1:18 pm
#226
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Because it makes no sense from a business perspective, on a flight that's wide open in Y, to put the P25K on a G fare into J, and someone (any/no status) on a J fare into Y.
I don't even understand how "it's always worked this way" is even an argument. At one point, that was probably said about why women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Things can change for the better.
People buy flexible tickets to make last minute changes (like walking up to a gate before the onload list is processed), and shouldn't be penalized with a downgrade.
I don't even understand how "it's always worked this way" is even an argument. At one point, that was probably said about why women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Things can change for the better.
People buy flexible tickets to make last minute changes (like walking up to a gate before the onload list is processed), and shouldn't be penalized with a downgrade.
As far as standbys go, they've always been prioritized lower than pax on confirmed reservations. I see this as being fair. By purchasing a flexible J/Y ticket, you have the option of confirming yourself on the flight, too, as long as you do it at least two hours before scheduled departure.
Apr 26, 2017, 1:47 pm
#227
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I get what you're saying about the business perspective, but you also cannot penalize people who hold confirmed reservations for the flight in question. Can you imagine if a SE on standby trumps a non-status GTE (who holds a confirmed reservation) on a sold-out flight?
As far as standbys go, they've always been prioritized lower than pax on confirmed reservations. I see this as being fair. By purchasing a flexible J/Y ticket, you have the option of confirming yourself on the flight, too, as long as you do it at least two hours before scheduled departure.
As far as standbys go, they've always been prioritized lower than pax on confirmed reservations. I see this as being fair. By purchasing a flexible J/Y ticket, you have the option of confirming yourself on the flight, too, as long as you do it at least two hours before scheduled departure.
I'm talking about a flight were the entire onload list is going to clear anyway, and just the order.
Due to these rules, I book the earliest flight I might make, then just SDC later if I can't make it. It wastes concierge time, but it ensures I have a confirmed reservation in J.
Anyway, my point is just that the list is now more accurate.
Apr 26, 2017, 1:53 pm
#228
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I'm not talking about clearing standby when the flight is full. That would be dumb.
I'm talking about a flight were the entire onload list is going to clear anyway, and just the order.
Due to these rules, I book the earliest flight I might make, then just SDC later if I can't make it. It wastes concierge time, but it ensures I have a confirmed reservation in J.
Anyway, my point is just that the list is now more accurate.
I'm talking about a flight were the entire onload list is going to clear anyway, and just the order.
Due to these rules, I book the earliest flight I might make, then just SDC later if I can't make it. It wastes concierge time, but it ensures I have a confirmed reservation in J.
Anyway, my point is just that the list is now more accurate.
I wish the list would default to the upgrade list first, because it's been a few times now I checked my name to see where I land and thought I got dropped, only to realize that I was looking at the standby list.
Apr 26, 2017, 1:56 pm
#229
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I feel like the order is fair.
If it's a J pax, he can get a confirmed change anyway.
If it's a latitude FP pax, he can cancel, change, and reupgrade for a confirmed change.
If it's a P fare. Well, who knows. Maybe that flight was P0 and they cheaped out.
I see no issue with giving priority to eUp on the current flight before standbys. It's the flight they paid for. Stand by is space permitting, so if there's space once all is said and done, then good. If not, then keep the booked flight.
But I can see how this is just putting the SE at a disadvantage, but hey, can't have it all
If it's a J pax, he can get a confirmed change anyway.
If it's a latitude FP pax, he can cancel, change, and reupgrade for a confirmed change.
If it's a P fare. Well, who knows. Maybe that flight was P0 and they cheaped out.
I see no issue with giving priority to eUp on the current flight before standbys. It's the flight they paid for. Stand by is space permitting, so if there's space once all is said and done, then good. If not, then keep the booked flight.
But I can see how this is just putting the SE at a disadvantage, but hey, can't have it all
Apr 26, 2017, 3:43 pm
#230
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If the J cabin is pretty empty and you're going to clear anyway, it's really a non-issue isn't it?
I wish the list would default to the upgrade list first, because it's been a few times now I checked my name to see where I land and thought I got dropped, only to realize that I was looking at the standby list.
I wish the list would default to the upgrade list first, because it's been a few times now I checked my name to see where I land and thought I got dropped, only to realize that I was looking at the standby list.
It's a Y list and J list.
J standby shows on the "upgrade" list.
Apr 26, 2017, 9:34 pm
#231
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I feel like the order is fair.
If it's a J pax, he can get a confirmed change anyway.
If it's a latitude FP pax, he can cancel, change, and reupgrade for a confirmed change.
If it's a P fare. Well, who knows. Maybe that flight was P0 and they cheaped out.
I see no issue with giving priority to eUp on the current flight before standbys. It's the flight they paid for. Stand by is space permitting, so if there's space once all is said and done, then good. If not, then keep the booked flight.
But I can see how this is just putting the SE at a disadvantage, but hey, can't have it all
If it's a J pax, he can get a confirmed change anyway.
If it's a latitude FP pax, he can cancel, change, and reupgrade for a confirmed change.
If it's a P fare. Well, who knows. Maybe that flight was P0 and they cheaped out.
I see no issue with giving priority to eUp on the current flight before standbys. It's the flight they paid for. Stand by is space permitting, so if there's space once all is said and done, then good. If not, then keep the booked flight.
But I can see how this is just putting the SE at a disadvantage, but hey, can't have it all
Apr 27, 2017, 10:30 am
#233
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Apr 27, 2017, 10:35 am
#234
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Apr 27, 2017, 10:47 am
#235
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Apr 28, 2017, 1:29 pm
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Apr 28, 2017, 4:18 pm
#240
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I've never SDC'ed, but I've been put on standby for free because I got in early and AC seemed keen to to get me home early, and did
I have no idea my standby screwed up someones eUp. But J was full, and I was flying J, or P. Probably Z or D. Can't recall which but it was a final TB hop on paid international business.