2017 Altitude Program
Nov 19, 2016, 2:41 pm
#106
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There are no immigration issues with it; all the various Governments care about is what you declare to them, not what you happen to tell a random private company.
OTOH, if I was AC I'd cross-reference anyone who changed their residency with them against their ATIS entries. And if someone was declaring Canadian residency to all Government agencies, but telling AC they were US resident, that's an easy status revocation.
OTOH, if I was AC I'd cross-reference anyone who changed their residency with them against their ATIS entries. And if someone was declaring Canadian residency to all Government agencies, but telling AC they were US resident, that's an easy status revocation.
It asks for a "mailing" address.
Nov 19, 2016, 2:59 pm
#107
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I see nothing wrong with a genuine dual-resident providing their non-Canadian address to AE (and their Cdn address to customs/immigration when entering Canada).
FWIW, I also see nothing wrong with AE asking for "proof of residency" (e.g. utility bill etc.) as some corporations do.
Nov 19, 2016, 4:50 pm
#108
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Nov 19, 2016, 5:49 pm
#109
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compassionate leave?
Great new announcement for parents.
However in 2007 when I had a cancer treatments over over 2 months, I requested same leave to retain my status. Never granted and frankly I hold that against AC as being very uncaring.
However in 2007 when I had a cancer treatments over over 2 months, I requested same leave to retain my status. Never granted and frankly I hold that against AC as being very uncaring.
Nov 19, 2016, 6:57 pm
#110
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I changed my address to USA and there was no problem at all. My dashboard reflected the new target.
There was no request for proof. They occasionally mail stuff to your home so are taking a risk using anything other than an address you regularly occupy.
When I was back from USA, I changed the address back and the dashboard reverted. No muss no fuss.
There was no request for proof. They occasionally mail stuff to your home so are taking a risk using anything other than an address you regularly occupy.
When I was back from USA, I changed the address back and the dashboard reverted. No muss no fuss.
Nov 19, 2016, 7:00 pm
#111
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This would be a perfect example of Shareholder's point upthread.
And further to rehoult's point about deferral, AC could have provided an extension here at the least for the period that 100,000miler could not fly due to his treatments.
Either way, while it is nice that AC made this "progressive" decision with parental leave, I agree with others here that there should be consideration for other reasons and yes, while there may be those tempted to abuse this, I am sure rules or guidelines can be established.
Nov 19, 2016, 8:33 pm
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As do I.
But.
Quick survey: when was the last time that you saw a pregnant woman traveling for work? What percentage of FFers are expectant females?
So while I too think this is a fair and reasonable thing for AC to offer, I have a suspicion that it is a lot more about PR than it is about doing something positive for any significant number of people. My guess is that a) the demographic in question is a tiny fraction of 1% to start with, and that people that use this and continue to be FF after maternity (or paternity) will be an even smaller number. Just sayin'.
But.
Quick survey: when was the last time that you saw a pregnant woman traveling for work? What percentage of FFers are expectant females?
So while I too think this is a fair and reasonable thing for AC to offer, I have a suspicion that it is a lot more about PR than it is about doing something positive for any significant number of people. My guess is that a) the demographic in question is a tiny fraction of 1% to start with, and that people that use this and continue to be FF after maternity (or paternity) will be an even smaller number. Just sayin'.
Nov 19, 2016, 8:34 pm
#113
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I wouldn't call it discriminatory. As explained by others above, it is a definable easily established period. That doesn't mean I don't agree with your point, because you have just highlighted the health crisis our nation is facing: Elder care. I don't think there is anyone who hasn't seen the impact of it and it's awful.
The problem we run into with trying to extend something to address the condition you describe is that it is next to impossible to define and enforce the characteristics to apply. It would be open to significant abuse. How do we prove that a family member we care for has dementia requiring our curtailment of activity? Parental leave is easy to determine as per the specified requirements. I'll never benefit from maternity leave as I do not have a uterus (that I am aware of). Nor will I qualify for parental leave as I am not currently in a relationship with anyone with a fertile uterus willing to offer up its reproductive capacity such that I might avail myself of paternity leave. However, I don't begrudge those that wish to use the altitude option.
The problem we run into with trying to extend something to address the condition you describe is that it is next to impossible to define and enforce the characteristics to apply. It would be open to significant abuse. How do we prove that a family member we care for has dementia requiring our curtailment of activity? Parental leave is easy to determine as per the specified requirements. I'll never benefit from maternity leave as I do not have a uterus (that I am aware of). Nor will I qualify for parental leave as I am not currently in a relationship with anyone with a fertile uterus willing to offer up its reproductive capacity such that I might avail myself of paternity leave. However, I don't begrudge those that wish to use the altitude option.
Nov 19, 2016, 8:35 pm
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Nov 19, 2016, 8:47 pm
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Increasingly disapointing FF program. I'm considering splitting my travels in two : Gold / E75 on AC with minimum $9K spent and get gold status on Skyteam with the other half . If i am not going to make SE again, i might as well try and get gold with 2 groups. Or just gradually switch to another star carrier such as LH .
So when I go to Europe and Asia where AC counts for very little AQD/AQM, I use DL.
AC is forcing our spend on to other carriers. I have no need to beyond the minimum SE requirements and 2MM is just not worth aiming for.
Nov 20, 2016, 2:07 am
#116
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This is exactly what I have done. Mind you, I keep SE (barely) and get my decent status with DL.
So when I go to Europe and Asia where AC counts for very little AQD/AQM, I use DL.
AC is forcing our spend on to other carriers. I have no need to beyond the minimum SE requirements and 2MM is just not worth aiming for.
So when I go to Europe and Asia where AC counts for very little AQD/AQM, I use DL.
AC is forcing our spend on to other carriers. I have no need to beyond the minimum SE requirements and 2MM is just not worth aiming for.
Nov 20, 2016, 9:52 am
#117
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However, it is quite possible to legitimately be a resident of two countries.
I see nothing wrong with a genuine dual-resident providing their non-Canadian address to AE (and their Cdn address to customs/immigration when entering Canada).
FWIW, I also see nothing wrong with AE asking for "proof of residency" (e.g. utility bill etc.) as some corporations do.
I see nothing wrong with a genuine dual-resident providing their non-Canadian address to AE (and their Cdn address to customs/immigration when entering Canada).
FWIW, I also see nothing wrong with AE asking for "proof of residency" (e.g. utility bill etc.) as some corporations do.
Nov 20, 2016, 9:55 am
#118
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But anyway, aeroplan.com is not asking for "legal resident" address, but merely for a mailing address.
If I happen to be in Europe or the US, or Brazil, for a few months, I end up having a mailing address there. Which surely is not illegal.
The trick is then to make sure the stay abroad coincides with the Dec.-January period.
