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Old Mar 11, 2019, 6:14 pm
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Old Jan 23, 2018, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Yhztraveller
Email from concierge two days ago when I asked about an eup for my wife, who was on an AP ticket (MCO-YHZ): "We have reviewed your booking and found out that the fare basis for Mrs. Yhztraveller is not eligible for Eupgrade. With that said if you would opt for a paid upgrade the fee would be CAD329.70."

When I replied Sunday night asking why I could not eup an AP ticket I received the following response on Monday morning: "I apologize if there may have been a miscommunication prior. What my colleague had mentioned is a paid confirmed upgrade of $329.70CAD. However, Aeroplan and Air Canada is extending their promotion to upgrade reward tickets until April 17, 2018. Should you request for Mrs. Yhztraveller to be on the standby list for AC1219 tomorrow, it would require 6 credits + $150CAD add-on fee."

Miscommunication?? They originally say that the fare basis is not eligible, then say it is, for 6 eups and $150. It gets better though, as a local Halifax concierge replied as well: "I was able to get your eupgrade request processed and your wife can be put on the list, however it would be 6 credits and 100$ add on fee."

There were only 4 of 14 seats occupied in J on the flight. They offered me an upgrade at the airport, but would not upgrade my wife, so I declined (for the sake of my marriage). I even tried to point out that she is a 50k member, but as usual, that doesn't matter on someone else's AP ticket. No biggy, as the flight was only 1/2 full and we had a row to ourselves in "premium economy".

To make a long story short, eups on AP tickets extended to April 17th, and depending on which concierge you get you might get a different answer on the fee.
Hey, at least they didn't say that you needed positive R space and that the lights need to be kept on.

But then again, they work at the airport.
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Old Jan 24, 2018, 2:36 pm
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This week I learned that while eUps are calculated as if you were flying direct from origin to destination, co-pay is calculated per segment.

So, for example, on this week's YOW-YYC-YVR, the eUp requirement is 10 credits for YOW-YYC, and 4 for YYC-YVR, but only 10 for YOW-YYC-YVR.

The co-pay, however, asked for $150 YOW-YYC, or $75 for YYC-YVR, or $225 for YOW-YYC-YVR.
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Old Jan 24, 2018, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by YOWgary
This week I learned that while eUps are calculated as if you were flying direct from origin to destination, co-pay is calculated per segment.

So, for example, on this week's YOW-YYC-YVR, the eUp requirement is 10 credits for YOW-YYC, and 4 for YYC-YVR, but only 10 for YOW-YYC-YVR.

The co-pay, however, asked for $150 YOW-YYC, or $75 for YYC-YVR, or $225 for YOW-YYC-YVR.
Way to be inconsistent, AC
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Old Jan 24, 2018, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
On YVR-YYZ, I couldn't get it to show any Flex lower than G, so it can only show the 10 eUp and 4 eUp options.

On YWG-YYZ, it offered me 6 eUps + $100 (Flex T), but also gave me the option for 6 eUps (Flex G). However, it did not then offer me a Flex H to save a few eUps.







Here it gives me options for lower flex fares on YYJ-YVR-YYZ (Prices out to Flex A) but on YVR-YYZ, it does just map to G with no lower option. Interesting that Flex A + $175 co-pay starting in YYJ is cheaper than the up-fare to Flex G starting from YVR. Not by much, but still cheaper.
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Old Jan 27, 2018, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
Not really because of COPAY, I think its $300 or 350 one way..

Also wait, I am pretty sure YYZ LAX R/T is 25K ?
Originally Posted by yyznomad
1. YYZ LAX rt for 50K is already a business redemption, so you're entitle to business even if seated in the Y cabin and you don't need eUps to do that.
2. And yes, you can eUp on an X booking as per https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...ade-offer.html and covered ad nauseum in this forum. AFAIK, this promotion ended for requests as of January 8, 2018, but it is possible that AC will extend it again since they have done so over and over for the last 1.5 years.

Also:
New eUpgrade Requirements! Co-pay for lower flex fares
Aeroplan question about Award upgrade with Altitude 2018
Unable to upgrade from Aeroplan Classic (X) to J
Upgrade on Aeroplan J ticket
Upgrade from Tango fares, as well as Aeroplan Fixed Mileage Flight Rewards

Hmm I wonder if I'm doing something wrong.

When I'm on aeroplan looking to book the redemption... YYZ > LAX round trip is 50k in economy, its 100k in business.
Do ya'll get anything different? or am I just misinterpreting things.
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Old Jan 27, 2018, 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by yosemite1
Hmm I wonder if I'm doing something wrong.

When I'm on aeroplan looking to book the redemption... YYZ > LAX round trip is 50k in economy, its 100k in business.
Do ya'll get anything different? or am I just misinterpreting things.
You must have been looking at the priority rewards for E75K and below. They are double the fixed mileage levels. The SE100K priority rewards are the same as fixed mileage levels.
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Old Jan 27, 2018, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by YYT82


You must have been looking at the priority rewards for E75K and below. They are double the fixed mileage levels. The SE100K priority rewards are the same as fixed mileage levels.
ah ok, that makes sense, I'm only E50k.

Thanks, ill just book my flight then.
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Old Apr 18, 2018, 12:36 pm
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Check out the new chart! I like it! No co-pay for low flex! Few eupgrades for lots of fares!

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Old Apr 18, 2018, 12:42 pm
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Ugh. AC should give us the ability to purchase the one or two missing eUpgrade credits... It sucks having 7 eUps left, but needing 8 for a Flex (G,Q,V,W).
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Old Apr 18, 2018, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Jebby_ca
Ugh. AC should give us the ability to purchase the one or two missing eUpgrade credits... It sucks having 7 eUps left, but needing 8 for a Flex (G,Q,V,W).
Yeah, after launching eUps in 2011, its about time they allow top-ups at the very least. Charge a premium for that top up if they need to, but at least have the option available.
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Old Apr 18, 2018, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Jebby_ca
Ugh. AC should give us the ability to purchase the one or two missing eUpgrade credits... It sucks having 7 eUps left, but needing 8 for a Flex (G,Q,V,W).
Originally Posted by yyznomad
Yeah, after launching eUps in 2011, its about time they allow top-ups at the very least. Charge a premium for that top up if they need to, but at least have the option available.
They do charge a premium. It's called upfaring.

In practice, there's no difference between buying eUps and buying up to a fare that requires fewer.
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Old Apr 18, 2018, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
They do charge a premium. It's called upfaring.

In practice, there's no difference between buying eUps and buying up to a fare that requires fewer.
So you're saying this is mathematically true in all scenarios?
Or are you saying the cost of the top up would be done so that it equals that of upfaring if they were to do top ups, hence moot?

I get the principle of what you're saying though.


Added: No - I gave this more thought. Even if the top-up of e-ups will cost similar to upfaring, they should still allow for this option. It gives some separation from the actual booking, and it allows for saving of eUps for a future flight (personal, business, etc.), if one plans to do so.

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Old Apr 18, 2018, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by philelite
Check out the new chart! I like it! No co-pay for low flex! Few eupgrades for lots of fares!

To be clear, this is not the new permanent chart. AC is running an eupgrade promotion starting today, up until July 31st.
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Old Apr 18, 2018, 1:39 pm
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Originally Posted by YOWCDNFF
To be clear, this is not the new permanent chart. AC is running an eupgrade promotion starting today, up until July 31st.
Yes, i just noticed the promo page is updated: https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...ade-offer.html

I'm happy about the promotion though, it saves me about 10+ eupgrades over my 10 days of flying for EYW
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Old Apr 18, 2018, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by philelite
Check out the new chart! I like it! No co-pay for low flex! Few eupgrades for lots of fares!
Why does the order of classes in each option change between fare classes? Flex lists HMU whereas Comfort list MUH like normal. Is H>M in one and M>H in another? The low classes change order around too.
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