FAQ: Air Canada New meal offerings for International Business Class Customers
#961
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
#962
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 23,805
#963
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto - YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan/Hilton Gold/Marriott Bonvoy Titanium/Accor/Hyatt Gold Passport
Posts: 5,899
Do you have any idea why an airline like BR can consistently deliver this on a 773? 1:40 takeoff, 2:00am or so once airborne, and I'm literally done my meal by 2:30am.
And it's consistent. Why can't AC do this? (if you don't mind me asking).
*Yes, I realize you're not privy to the internal operations of BR, but I'm just curious as to where your thoughts are on this given your extensive experience as a service director. Thanks!
And it's consistent. Why can't AC do this? (if you don't mind me asking).
*Yes, I realize you're not privy to the internal operations of BR, but I'm just curious as to where your thoughts are on this given your extensive experience as a service director. Thanks!
#964
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: sqrt(-united states of apologist)
Programs: *$ Green
Posts: 5,403
IIRC, staffing is different depending on route length and destination, based on a reply from YYZSD on an observation I had about my perceived staffing differences YYZ-NRT vs NRT-YVR flights.
I had noticed this when trying to find out why the service on one flight appeared to be different than on another.
I had noticed this when trying to find out why the service on one flight appeared to be different than on another.
#965
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,255
Sorry, I just would like clarification... It is the heating up of entrees that takes away from the quality of service for other J pax, correct? I will respect the rationale even if I disagree with it. I would just like to know the official rationale.
#966
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa
Programs: AC SE*MM/S100K; HHonors Diamond; a bunch of others at various levels!
Posts: 1,580
On last Saturday's YUL-CDG flight, a different (shorter) card was distributed. It did not ask what drinks would be preferred (juice/tea/coffee). Why the shorter breakfast card? With the previous card you could preselect your entire breakfast.
Finally, this was a refurbished 77W (with the DreamCabin interior). I asked for cappuccino in the morning and they were unable to get the milk frother/steamer to work. Previously, I had thought this was an equipment issue, but I have had enough successful ones on 788 aircraft that I am wondering if it is a training issue for the flight crews?
#967
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa
Programs: AC SE*MM/S100K; HHonors Diamond; a bunch of others at various levels!
Posts: 1,580
#968
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto - YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan/Hilton Gold/Marriott Bonvoy Titanium/Accor/Hyatt Gold Passport
Posts: 5,899
The card was condensed as per Crew feedback. Tastes change over the course of 6-8 hours and Customers were asking for extra sugar, extra milk/cream, deciding to take tea over coffee, etc. From my perspective it removed an element of Customer interaction, and asking "what may I offer you to drink" seems to have worked successfully over the course of almost 80 years . I also reconfirm the breakfast selection upon distribution, as again, preferences may have changed through the course of the night.
#969
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa
Programs: AC SE*MM/S100K; HHonors Diamond; a bunch of others at various levels!
Posts: 1,580
The card was condensed as per Crew feedback. Tastes change over the course of 6-8 hours and Customers were asking for extra sugar, extra milk/cream, deciding to take tea over coffee, etc. From my perspective it removed an element of Customer interaction, and asking "what may I offer you to drink" seems to have worked successfully over the course of almost 80 years . I also reconfirm the breakfast selection upon distribution, as again, preferences may have changed through the course of the night.
#970
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto - YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan/Hilton Gold/Marriott Bonvoy Titanium/Accor/Hyatt Gold Passport
Posts: 5,899
That makes sense. I wasn't complaining - just wanted to know about the change. I did like to indicate an espresso beverage on the card (on DreamCabin aircraft) so that it could be made ready for when breakfast was served. That is not something that is offered from the service trolley.
#971
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,353
The card was condensed as per Crew feedback. Tastes change over the course of 6-8 hours and Customers were asking for extra sugar, extra milk/cream, deciding to take tea over coffee, etc. From my perspective it removed an element of Customer interaction, and asking "what may I offer you to drink" seems to have worked successfully over the course of almost 80 years . I also reconfirm the breakfast selection upon distribution, as again, preferences may have changed through the course of the night.
#972
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto - YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan/Hilton Gold/Marriott Bonvoy Titanium/Accor/Hyatt Gold Passport
Posts: 5,899
I think they were striving for a simpler format. Seat numbers are still not regularly marked on the cards (I check before pick up), and not uncommon for Customers to check off "do not wish to be woken for breakfast" yet check off every option on said card.
#973
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: AC75 MM
Posts: 959
My interpretation of this is that If I'm asleep please don't wake me, but if I'm awake then this is what I'd like. If there's ambiguity then whoever picks up the card should question it, (and make sure seat number is completed )
#974
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto - YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan/Hilton Gold/Marriott Bonvoy Titanium/Accor/Hyatt Gold Passport
Posts: 5,899
Right on -- and the trays are assembled in the event of.