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Old Jun 11, 2013, 12:52 am
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Air Canada Cuts, cabin crew reduction

Starting July 1, AC is reducing cabin crew compliment by 1 flight attendant on all 777-200, 777-300 and Airbus330 flights under 11:30.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by wjalcc
Starting July 1, AC is reducing cabin crew compliment by 1 flight attendant on all 777-200, 777-300 and Airbus330 flights under 11:30.
A thread already exists for this issue.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ttendants.html

BTW, do you have a reference for you statement above, quick search on google news came up with nothing.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by jaysona
A thread already exists for this issue.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ttendants.html

BTW, do you have a reference for you statement above, quick search on google news came up with nothing.
This has nothing to do with moving from 1:40 to 1:50 as that application does not include widebody aircraft.

Sounds like the OP is from AC.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 7:51 am
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Should save AC a solid chunk of change and have virtually no impact on PAX experience.
Only ones feeling this will be the FAs. This and the 1/50 upcoming are going to hurt
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 8:07 am
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Will this FA come from J or Y? Or will this be worked out with the new 777s with E+?
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 8:10 am
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This probably relates to AC trying to save (i.e. trying to not spend) $50 million this quarter.

Trouble is, they'll probably find that having one less FA on the widebodies makes no appreciable difference in complaints so it will become the new norm.

Also, since FAs are here for our safety and comfort, it stands to reason that safety and comfort are less important these days.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
This has nothing to do with moving from 1:40 to 1:50 as that application does not include widebody aircraft.

Sounds like the OP is from AC.
That is correct. This has nothing to do with the Transport Canada exemption.
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Old Jun 11, 2013, 10:00 am
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Trouble is, they'll probably find that having one less FA on the widebodies makes no appreciable difference in complaints so it will become the new norm.
What's the trouble with that?? Less cost and no appreciable customer impact. AC is a business. What am I missing here?

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Also, since FAs are here for our safety and comfort, it stands to reason that safety and comfort are less important these days.
Silly
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Old Jun 12, 2013, 1:06 pm
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Less Crew = LESS SAFETY = LESS Service!
AC already has skeleton crew on these flights.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cupe-l...150000374.html
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Old Jan 15, 2015, 7:06 pm
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Forget safety or service.

Flew the 330 Montreal to Frankfurt. Total of 6 harassed and unhappy cabin crew for 300 passengers. More than 2 hours passed without so much as a offer of water. There used to be 11 crew on this flight. To say that service and safety are not compromised is ridiculous. Following flights on Air India and Sri Lanka Air had much larger and responsive crews. Just because airliners crash less can't justify being Ill prepared when they do. BTW the whole bunch looked pissy and frustrated.
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Old Jan 15, 2015, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
Should save AC a solid chunk of change and have virtually no impact on PAX experience.
Only ones feeling this will be the FAs. This and the 1/50 upcoming are going to hurt
Perhaps, but frankly I've noticed the different level of service bin narrow body planes since switching to the new 1:50 or whatever it is.

Saves a good chunk of cash but lowers the quality of service. I noticed the lower level of service (everything was slower, less frequent, etc) was noticed in both J and Y.
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Old Jan 15, 2015, 10:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Bill Armstrong
Flew the 330 Montreal to Frankfurt. Total of 6 harassed and unhappy cabin crew for 300 passengers.
Welcome to FT and great first post !

How did they fit the extra 35 pax on a plane that seats 37 J + 228 Y ?
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Old Jan 15, 2015, 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Bill Armstrong
Flew the 330 Montreal to Frankfurt. Total of 6 harassed and unhappy cabin crew for 300 passengers. More than 2 hours passed without so much as a offer of water. There used to be 11 crew on this flight. To say that service and safety are not compromised is ridiculous. Following flights on Air India and Sri Lanka Air had much larger and responsive crews. Just because airliners crash less can't justify being Ill prepared when they do. BTW the whole bunch looked pissy and frustrated.
And if the plane was full at 265 vs. your supposed 300, does Transport Canada know AC apparently broke minimum crew regulations having only 6 cabin crew onboard?

It seems like someone didn't actually count cabin crew and divided 300 by 50 just to complain about service.

And for the record, if I were in a plane about to crash I would way rather be on AC with AC crews than Air India or Sri Lankan... just my personal view.
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Old Jan 15, 2015, 11:20 pm
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Originally Posted by NordsFan
Originally Posted by Bill Armstrong
Flew the 330 Montreal to Frankfurt. Total of 6 harassed and unhappy cabin crew for 300 passengers.
Welcome to FT and great first post !

How did they fit the extra 35 pax on a plane that seats 37 J + 228 Y ?
12 across?
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Old Jan 15, 2015, 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
Should save AC a solid chunk of change and have virtually no impact on PAX experience.
Only ones feeling this will be the FAs. This and the 1/50 upcoming are going to hurt
Perhaps, but frankly I've noticed the different level of service bin narrow body planes since switching to the new 1:50 or whatever it is.

Saves a good chunk of cash but lowers the quality of service. I noticed the lower level of service (everything was slower, less frequent, etc) was noticed in both J and Y.
The upside is that it cheapens the service.
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