May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Apr 14, 2015, 12:42 am
#4801
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: YVR
Programs: UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 3,759
Just checked and AC will fly you to KIX from YYZ (via a connection to YVR on mainline) all summer long for ~$850; that is, around the price of a flex fare for just the YYZ/YVR leg. Clearly they have gotten a very, very sweet deal at KIX.
Apr 14, 2015, 9:32 am
#4802
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: sqrt(-united states of apologist)
Programs: *$ Green
Posts: 5,403
I don't know TOO much about Osaka, but I think KIX is not turning out to be as good as they thought (plus the sinking into the ocean problem).
Even the hotels have shuttles to ITM instead of KIX.
I would still rather pay the premium and fly YYZ-HND-ITM instead of YYZ-YVR-KIX because:
- Rouge
- HND Immigration
- Get to try out ANA
- Believe it or not, it's faster than through YVR
Apr 14, 2015, 7:00 pm
#4803
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
What's clear (as noted back on page 259) is KIX is a low yielding market unable to viably support much service from NA. The lower cost base with Rouge is the only thing giving this route a fighting chance
Apr 14, 2015, 7:07 pm
#4804
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
Must be.
I don't know TOO much about Osaka, but I think KIX is not turning out to be as good as they thought (plus the sinking into the ocean problem).
Even the hotels have shuttles to ITM instead of KIX.
I would still rather pay the premium and fly YYZ-HND-ITM instead of YYZ-YVR-KIX because:
I don't know TOO much about Osaka, but I think KIX is not turning out to be as good as they thought (plus the sinking into the ocean problem).
Even the hotels have shuttles to ITM instead of KIX.
I would still rather pay the premium and fly YYZ-HND-ITM instead of YYZ-YVR-KIX because:
- Rouge
- HND Immigration
- Get to try out ANA
- Believe it or not, it's faster than through YVR
Apr 14, 2015, 7:25 pm
#4805
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: sqrt(-united states of apologist)
Programs: *$ Green
Posts: 5,403
When I visited Osaka, I did notice a ridiculous amount of leisure travellers, so I just thought AC was fed up with handing out through-fares on ANA.
I'm really not cool enough for that card
Apr 17, 2015, 7:27 pm
#4806
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: YOW
Posts: 41
Redeeming on Rouge
I'm looking at using some of my Aeroplan points to fly Rouge YYZ-DUB (I know it's not the best value for points) and one of the available options is "Premium Economy - Class N".....would this be a Premium Rouge seat or just an exit/bulkhead row?
Apr 17, 2015, 7:32 pm
#4807
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,435
Premium rouge.
Apr 19, 2015, 8:11 am
#4808
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SEMM
Posts: 1,379
Seems best place to post this - apologies if I had already missed it elsewhere
Race to the Bottom - Torstar article about cramped seats and so on
Race to the Bottom - Torstar article about cramped seats and so on
Apr 20, 2015, 3:38 pm
#4809
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SEMM
Posts: 1,379
Having no option I will be doing the dreaded Rouge YYZ-MCO-YYZ next month. Managed to get B fare one way so upgraded for 2 credits immediately. Return trip could only swing M fare so need to choose a Preferred seat (for now). Only 4C, and 18 A and F (the exit rows with no-one in front of them) are available.
Which would you choose?
Which would you choose?
Apr 20, 2015, 3:45 pm
#4810
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: YVR
Programs: WS Nothing, AC Something, AS Gold. Too big for 737Max washrooms
Posts: 893
Having no option I will be doing the dreaded Rouge YYZ-MCO-YYZ next month. Managed to get B fare one way so upgraded for 2 credits immediately. Return trip could only swing M fare so need to choose a Preferred seat (for now). Only 4C, and 18 A and F (the exit rows with no-one in front of them) are available.
Which would you choose?
Which would you choose?
Apr 20, 2015, 3:47 pm
#4811
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: sqrt(-united states of apologist)
Programs: *$ Green
Posts: 5,403
Having no option I will be doing the dreaded Rouge YYZ-MCO-YYZ next month. Managed to get B fare one way so upgraded for 2 credits immediately. Return trip could only swing M fare so need to choose a Preferred seat (for now). Only 4C, and 18 A and F (the exit rows with no-one in front of them) are available.
Which would you choose?
Which would you choose?
Step 2 Reroute with another airline
Step 3 Start an FT thread about how you did not support rouge by choosing to route through another airline
Step 4 Win
Apr 20, 2015, 3:56 pm
#4812
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 648
Having no option I will be doing the dreaded Rouge YYZ-MCO-YYZ next month. Managed to get B fare one way so upgraded for 2 credits immediately. Return trip could only swing M fare so need to choose a Preferred seat (for now). Only 4C, and 18 A and F (the exit rows with no-one in front of them) are available.
Which would you choose?
Which would you choose?
Apr 20, 2015, 4:16 pm
#4813
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,343
Having no option I will be doing the dreaded Rouge YYZ-MCO-YYZ next month. Managed to get B fare one way so upgraded for 2 credits immediately. Return trip could only swing M fare so need to choose a Preferred seat (for now). Only 4C, and 18 A and F (the exit rows with no-one in front of them) are available.
Which would you choose?
Which would you choose?
Delta F is CAD697-740
United F is CAD769-811 (if you are a slave to AQM)
Apr 20, 2015, 4:22 pm
#4814
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: sqrt(-united states of apologist)
Programs: *$ Green
Posts: 5,403
Apr 20, 2015, 4:42 pm
#4815
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SEMM
Posts: 1,379
Unfortunately my only option to get up front is Rouge as corporate travel policy won't buy F or J for me. Having found almost sold out Rouge flights that were "in policy" and so get ticketed in Lat or high Flex that is where I find myself.