Credit Card Insurance coverage
#106
Join Date: May 2007
Location: YYZ, but my heart is in Asia
Programs: AC-SE, CX-DM, DL-G, Hyatt-DM, Hilton-DM, Fairmont-Plt, Marriott-S, Accor-Plt, SPG-G, IHG-Plt
Posts: 4,396
I guess even if you used their vouchers, it would be fine too. Amex insurance would never ask you to surrender the vouchers. They wouldn't know nor care.
#107
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 27
I booked a aeroplan mini-rtw with Aeroplan Gold Amex, but also hold the Gold Reward Amex. Can someone please tell me if I get this right?
1) Gold Reward Amex will only cover my 15 day travel insurance. (I've already topped it up to the whole duration)...but that's the only thing it'll cover
2) Aeroplan Gold Amex will cover this:
"Book a flight with your American Express AeroplanPlus Gold Card, and receive up to $500 coverage for all reasonable and necessary hotel, motel or restaurant expenses made within 48 hours when you are delayed or denied boarding for more than four hours and no alternate transportation is available. Also includes up to $500 for all immediate daily necessary and reasonable emergency purchases, made within four days, for essential clothing and sundry items when your baggage on your outbound trip is delayed more than six hours. Underwritten by Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance Company of Canada."
I didn't see this thread till now, and am leaving the door to go camping. When I return from camping, I have to pack and start the mini-rtw the next day. I could really use a simple and helpful answer. Thanks in advance guys!
1) Gold Reward Amex will only cover my 15 day travel insurance. (I've already topped it up to the whole duration)...but that's the only thing it'll cover
2) Aeroplan Gold Amex will cover this:
"Book a flight with your American Express AeroplanPlus Gold Card, and receive up to $500 coverage for all reasonable and necessary hotel, motel or restaurant expenses made within 48 hours when you are delayed or denied boarding for more than four hours and no alternate transportation is available. Also includes up to $500 for all immediate daily necessary and reasonable emergency purchases, made within four days, for essential clothing and sundry items when your baggage on your outbound trip is delayed more than six hours. Underwritten by Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance Company of Canada."
I didn't see this thread till now, and am leaving the door to go camping. When I return from camping, I have to pack and start the mini-rtw the next day. I could really use a simple and helpful answer. Thanks in advance guys!
#108
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*Gold), DL, CZ
Posts: 1,252
I recently made an insurance claim with the AMEX Platinum Aeroplan cc; it absolutely works!
Assured Assistance (the provider) asked for ridiculous things such as "written proof from an airline agent" that there was a cancellation, even though the rep mentioned that numerous card holders had called in before me crying about the same issue.
If anyone has to make a claim, here's my advice:
- Take a pic of the display board by the gate
- Go to the Flight Status page on Aircanada.com, enter your flight # and print the page off, since that will provide the official cancellation notice
- Go to Flight Tracker or Flight Aware, enter your flight numbers, and print the page off showing the affected flight(s)
- If it's weather related, scour the 'net and see if you can find some kind of related story (in my situation, I found something on a newspaper page - Business Week, I think)
Assured Assistance (the provider) asked for ridiculous things such as "written proof from an airline agent" that there was a cancellation, even though the rep mentioned that numerous card holders had called in before me crying about the same issue.
If anyone has to make a claim, here's my advice:
- Take a pic of the display board by the gate
- Go to the Flight Status page on Aircanada.com, enter your flight # and print the page off, since that will provide the official cancellation notice
- Go to Flight Tracker or Flight Aware, enter your flight numbers, and print the page off showing the affected flight(s)
- If it's weather related, scour the 'net and see if you can find some kind of related story (in my situation, I found something on a newspaper page - Business Week, I think)
#109
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: トロント
Programs: IHG Gold
Posts: 4,820
I booked a aeroplan mini-rtw with Aeroplan Gold Amex, but also hold the Gold Reward Amex. Can someone please tell me if I get this right?
1) Gold Reward Amex will only cover my 15 day travel insurance. (I've already topped it up to the whole duration)...but that's the only thing it'll cover
2) Aeroplan Gold Amex will cover this:
"Book a flight with your American Express AeroplanPlus Gold Card, and receive up to $500 coverage for all reasonable and necessary hotel, motel or restaurant expenses made within 48 hours when you are delayed or denied boarding for more than four hours and no alternate transportation is available. Also includes up to $500 for all immediate daily necessary and reasonable emergency purchases, made within four days, for essential clothing and sundry items when your baggage on your outbound trip is delayed more than six hours. Underwritten by Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance Company of Canada."
I didn't see this thread till now, and am leaving the door to go camping. When I return from camping, I have to pack and start the mini-rtw the next day. I could really use a simple and helpful answer. Thanks in advance guys!
1) Gold Reward Amex will only cover my 15 day travel insurance. (I've already topped it up to the whole duration)...but that's the only thing it'll cover
2) Aeroplan Gold Amex will cover this:
"Book a flight with your American Express AeroplanPlus Gold Card, and receive up to $500 coverage for all reasonable and necessary hotel, motel or restaurant expenses made within 48 hours when you are delayed or denied boarding for more than four hours and no alternate transportation is available. Also includes up to $500 for all immediate daily necessary and reasonable emergency purchases, made within four days, for essential clothing and sundry items when your baggage on your outbound trip is delayed more than six hours. Underwritten by Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance Company of Canada."
I didn't see this thread till now, and am leaving the door to go camping. When I return from camping, I have to pack and start the mini-rtw the next day. I could really use a simple and helpful answer. Thanks in advance guys!
This is generally interpreted as meaning not Aeroplan miles, but only Amex's own Membership Rewards Program.
#110
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: AMEX AC CX UA AA DL
Posts: 3,008
I booked a aeroplan mini-rtw with Aeroplan Gold Amex, but also hold the Gold Reward Amex ....
2) Aeroplan Gold Amex will cover this:
"Book a flight with your American Express AeroplanPlus Gold Card, and receive up to $500 coverage for all reasonable and necessary hotel, motel or restaurant expenses made within 48 hours when you are delayed or denied boarding for more than four hours and no alternate transportation is available. Also includes up to $500 for all immediate daily necessary and reasonable emergency purchases, made within four days, for essential clothing and sundry items when your baggage on your outbound trip is delayed more than six hours. Underwritten by Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance Company of Canada."
Reward trips are covered only if it's redeemed through AMEX Membership Reward , ambiguously called "card reward program", not Aeroplan. YMMV.
For Trip Cancellation (only for Platinum), it explicitly says for reward trips, only Membership Reward redemption is covered.
#111
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 4,153
Please read the complete insurance brochure and confirm with AMEX Card (Royal & Sun Alliance) claims department.
Reward trips are covered only if it's redeemed through AMEX Membership Reward , ambiguously called "card reward program", not Aeroplan. YMMV.
For Trip Cancellation (only for Platinum), it explicitly says for reward trips, only Membership Reward redemption is covered.
Reward trips are covered only if it's redeemed through AMEX Membership Reward , ambiguously called "card reward program", not Aeroplan. YMMV.
For Trip Cancellation (only for Platinum), it explicitly says for reward trips, only Membership Reward redemption is covered.
#112
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: トロント
Programs: IHG Gold
Posts: 4,820
I have two claims going on an AP booking. The language is obviously outdated, as there isn't any free award booking anymore, as proven by the hefty charge on my cc statement whenever I book on points. It's more like a points upgrade on a discount revenue ticket nowadays...
#113
Join Date: May 2007
Location: YYZ, but my heart is in Asia
Programs: AC-SE, CX-DM, DL-G, Hyatt-DM, Hilton-DM, Fairmont-Plt, Marriott-S, Accor-Plt, SPG-G, IHG-Plt
Posts: 4,396
Let us know what happens at the end. I specifically used my CICBC Aerogold because I don't trust the AMEX weasel language. You would think, for example, an Aeroplat AMEX card should by rights cover an AE award ticket...but it looks like you have to be a Philadelphia lawer to figure out their policy.
Try to avoid CIBC because the coverage sucks. Only $500 per incident.
#114
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
My girlfriend booked a revenue ticket to Beijing on her CIBC Aventura World MC (entire cost). The flight was delayed for 4.5 hours, and so she wanted to take a taxi home ($30 fare) instead of staying at YVR after checking in. From reading the certificates of insurance posted on CIBC's website, this should have been a slam dunk claim under transportation expenses section a (returning to principle residence)
https://www.cibc.com/ca/pdf/visa/s82...-en.pdf#page=9
However when she called Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance (twice even), both agents wouldn't let her claim it, saying that she has to stay at the airport for 4 hours and then take a taxi after 4 hours had elapsed before she would be allowed to initiate a claim (same for food and entertainment expense). This seems ridiculous to me, as it means one would have to be delayed for well over 4 hours before someone could claim for anything since they would need time to return to the airport, as well providing ample time to clear security. How is this possible unless you were stuck for well over 4 hours (maybe 7+?)
Am I wrong or are those agents wrong?
https://www.cibc.com/ca/pdf/visa/s82...-en.pdf#page=9
However when she called Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance (twice even), both agents wouldn't let her claim it, saying that she has to stay at the airport for 4 hours and then take a taxi after 4 hours had elapsed before she would be allowed to initiate a claim (same for food and entertainment expense). This seems ridiculous to me, as it means one would have to be delayed for well over 4 hours before someone could claim for anything since they would need time to return to the airport, as well providing ample time to clear security. How is this possible unless you were stuck for well over 4 hours (maybe 7+?)
Am I wrong or are those agents wrong?
Last edited by crimsona; Oct 24, 2012 at 2:41 pm
#115
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 4,153
Let us know what happens at the end. I specifically used my CICBC Aerogold because I don't trust the AMEX weasel language. You would think, for example, an Aeroplat AMEX card should by rights cover an AE award ticket...but it looks like you have to be a Philadelphia lawer to figure out their policy.
#116
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 4,153
My girlfriend booked a revenue ticket to Beijing on her CIBC Aventura World MC (entire cost). The flight was delayed for 4.5 hours, and so she wanted to take a taxi home ($30 fare) instead of staying at YVR after checking in. From reading the certificates of insurance posted on CIBC's website, this should have been a slam dunk claim under transportation expenses section a (returning to principle residence)
https://www.cibc.com/ca/pdf/visa/s82...-en.pdf#page=9
However when she called Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance (twice even), both agents wouldn't let her claim it, saying that she has to stay at the airport for 4 hours and then take a taxi after 4 hours had elapsed before she would be allowed to initiate a claim (same for food and entertainment expense). This seems ridiculous to me, as it means one would have to be delayed for well over 4 hours before someone could claim for anything since they would need time to return to the airport, as well providing ample time to clear security. How is this possible unless you were stuck for well over 4 hours (maybe 7+?)
Am I wrong or are those agents wrong?
https://www.cibc.com/ca/pdf/visa/s82...-en.pdf#page=9
However when she called Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance (twice even), both agents wouldn't let her claim it, saying that she has to stay at the airport for 4 hours and then take a taxi after 4 hours had elapsed before she would be allowed to initiate a claim (same for food and entertainment expense). This seems ridiculous to me, as it means one would have to be delayed for well over 4 hours before someone could claim for anything since they would need time to return to the airport, as well providing ample time to clear security. How is this possible unless you were stuck for well over 4 hours (maybe 7+?)
Am I wrong or are those agents wrong?
#117
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
Often the flight delays are announced, so in that case, I don't see why they would reject the claim. The reasoning about needing to go back to the airport prior to 4 hours makes sense. However, I also can't fathom making phone calls and filling out a claim form for a lousy 30 bucks.
#119
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
Often the flight delays are announced, so in that case, I don't see why they would reject the claim. The reasoning about needing to go back to the airport prior to 4 hours makes sense. However, I also can't fathom making phone calls and filling out a claim form for a lousy 30 bucks.
Basically all I'm trying to find out from other people's experiences is if this should be a valid claim, or as the reps have been telling her, a denied claim
Last edited by crimsona; Oct 24, 2012 at 6:56 pm
#120
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 4,153
This was her first time trying to claim the card's insurance benefits as a test. She wasn't going to try spending and claiming the $100 entertainment expense in case it wasn't approved. Given her experience with just the transportation portion of the claim, I'd say her fears were fairly well-founded.
Basically all I'm trying to find out from other people's experiences is if this should be a valid claim, or as the reps have been telling her, a denied claim
Basically all I'm trying to find out from other people's experiences is if this should be a valid claim, or as the reps have been telling her, a denied claim
I never had trouble claiming from the Amex Plat insurance (run my Rbc now, but even when run by Royal and Sun), and Amex Cent seems to be similar, although this business about asking for airline documentation on cancelled flights is a bit strange.