Air Canada VIP Service
Sep 12, 2011, 8:01 am
#136
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Air Canada VIP Service
Interesting that Air Canada VIP is listed last as a *G AC status in the Star Alliance Employee Reference Guide 2011 (http://www.starallianceemployees.com...GUIDE_2011.pdf) - page 14:
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The following levels are Star Alliance Gold Card holders. Please refer to frequent flyer programmes of Star Alliance member carriers for more details
...
Air Canada AC Air Canada Super Elite, Air Canada Elite, Air Canada VIP
...
"
Compare that to Lufthansa which lists *G cards as follows: HON Circle, Senator.
By the sounds of it, it should top Super Elite so VIP should be listed first. I know, I might be splitting hairs here. But consider the consistency of how everything else is listed in the guide...
"
The following levels are Star Alliance Gold Card holders. Please refer to frequent flyer programmes of Star Alliance member carriers for more details
...
Air Canada AC Air Canada Super Elite, Air Canada Elite, Air Canada VIP
...
"
Compare that to Lufthansa which lists *G cards as follows: HON Circle, Senator.
By the sounds of it, it should top Super Elite so VIP should be listed first. I know, I might be splitting hairs here. But consider the consistency of how everything else is listed in the guide...
Sep 12, 2011, 1:46 pm
#138
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Sep 12, 2011, 6:35 pm
#139
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ime AC has a niche in the market.. until all of these enhancements happening this year.. It will be hard pressed for AC to remain an above average airline.. since they don't promote themselves as an LCC..
Sep 12, 2011, 8:24 pm
#140
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Interesting that Air Canada VIP is listed last as a *G AC status in the Star Alliance Employee Reference Guide 2011 (http://www.starallianceemployees.com...GUIDE_2011.pdf) - page 14:
"
The following levels are Star Alliance Gold Card holders. Please refer to frequent flyer programmes of Star Alliance member carriers for more details
...
Air Canada AC Air Canada Super Elite, Air Canada Elite, Air Canada VIP
...
"
Compare that to Lufthansa which lists *G cards as follows: HON Circle, Senator.
By the sounds of it, it should top Super Elite so VIP should be listed first. I know, I might be splitting hairs here. But consider the consistency of how everything else is listed in the guide...
"
The following levels are Star Alliance Gold Card holders. Please refer to frequent flyer programmes of Star Alliance member carriers for more details
...
Air Canada AC Air Canada Super Elite, Air Canada Elite, Air Canada VIP
...
"
Compare that to Lufthansa which lists *G cards as follows: HON Circle, Senator.
By the sounds of it, it should top Super Elite so VIP should be listed first. I know, I might be splitting hairs here. But consider the consistency of how everything else is listed in the guide...
"... The Air Canada Super Elite program remain the priority in terms of recognition. ..."
Sep 13, 2011, 8:57 am
#141
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Bingo. He also made clear that they don't consider it part of the status program. It is designed to provide benefits to a different sub-set of the population than their FF program.
Sep 20, 2011, 11:17 pm
#142
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well well well, now the juicy stuff starts to come out...
see this pdf of an email sent to 'lucky' recipients of the secretive black VIP card:
http://bit.ly/pbmJX9
seems like the only worthwhile benefit would be the REAL luggage tags, and AVIS presidents...
see this pdf of an email sent to 'lucky' recipients of the secretive black VIP card:
http://bit.ly/pbmJX9
seems like the only worthwhile benefit would be the REAL luggage tags, and AVIS presidents...
Last edited by NAJetSet; Sep 21, 2011 at 8:29 am
Sep 20, 2011, 11:20 pm
#143
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well well well, now the juicy stuff starts to come out...
see this pdf of an email sent to 'lucky' recipients of the secretive black VIP card:
http://bit.ly/pyTRI9
seems like the only worthwhile benefit would be the REAL luggage tags, and AVIS presidents...
see this pdf of an email sent to 'lucky' recipients of the secretive black VIP card:
http://bit.ly/pyTRI9
seems like the only worthwhile benefit would be the REAL luggage tags, and AVIS presidents...
On my aeroplat, I got complimentary Hertz Gold #1 status.. similar to what they are offering for the Gold/Avis..
Sep 21, 2011, 12:45 am
#144
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Sep 21, 2011, 5:30 am
#145
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well well well, now the juicy stuff starts to come out...
see this pdf of an email sent to 'lucky' recipients of the secretive black VIP card:
http://bit.ly/pVjqbP
seems like the only worthwhile benefit would be the REAL luggage tags, and AVIS presidents...
see this pdf of an email sent to 'lucky' recipients of the secretive black VIP card:
http://bit.ly/pVjqbP
seems like the only worthwhile benefit would be the REAL luggage tags, and AVIS presidents...
The benefits listed in the doc don´t look too exciting (basically E status + concierge service). Someone posted earlier that VIPs get unlimited upgrades on all routes on a space-available basis on the day of departure. If that´s true VIP status would be great, but I don´t see any reference to that benefit in the doc, so I guess it´s more like a myth.
Sep 21, 2011, 6:59 am
#146
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I guess AC VIP means an E or SE status could be offered to some people (VIPs) who don't fly often enough BIS to obtain status.
So I think VIP E would be just like E and VIP SE would be just like SE, except the BIS miles requirements.
Edit to add: plus there are extra perks like concierge service or Avis status thrown in, at AC's discretion.
So I think VIP E would be just like E and VIP SE would be just like SE, except the BIS miles requirements.
Edit to add: plus there are extra perks like concierge service or Avis status thrown in, at AC's discretion.
Sep 21, 2011, 10:55 pm
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Sep 22, 2011, 5:22 pm
#148
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Yeeeaaahhhh no, not quite. Used to have Hertz #1 Club Gold and Avis Presidential at the same time. Avis is hands-down better, not just for corporate rentals (no upgrade or guaranteed availability for Gold) but especially where it counts for those occasional leisure rentals: Avis Presidential gets much better discounts (I've had as much as 50% off Hertz for a similar vehicle in Europe).
Moved up to Hertz Five Star (not my choice, Hertz is corporate renter in N/A) and I still prefer Avis Presidential, although I do give Hertz the edge fleet-wise in the US.
Now perhaps if I made it up to Hertz President's Circle, we might have a battle.
Moved up to Hertz Five Star (not my choice, Hertz is corporate renter in N/A) and I still prefer Avis Presidential, although I do give Hertz the edge fleet-wise in the US.
Now perhaps if I made it up to Hertz President's Circle, we might have a battle.
Sep 22, 2011, 8:40 pm
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Yeeeaaahhhh no, not quite. Used to have Hertz #1 Club Gold and Avis Presidential at the same time. Avis is hands-down better, not just for corporate rentals (no upgrade or guaranteed availability for Gold) but especially where it counts for those occasional leisure rentals: Avis Presidential gets much better discounts (I've had as much as 50% off Hertz for a similar vehicle in Europe).
Moved up to Hertz Five Star (not my choice, Hertz is corporate renter in N/A) and I still prefer Avis Presidential, although I do give Hertz the edge fleet-wise in the US.
Now perhaps if I made it up to Hertz President's Circle, we might have a battle.
Moved up to Hertz Five Star (not my choice, Hertz is corporate renter in N/A) and I still prefer Avis Presidential, although I do give Hertz the edge fleet-wise in the US.
Now perhaps if I made it up to Hertz President's Circle, we might have a battle.
Good to hear Avis Presidential is worth it.. will have to look into it..