Mini RTW Questions
#107


Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary
Programs: WestJet Platinum
Posts: 773
I have two questions for any of the more experienced redeemers.
1) I have my route planned out (and Okayed by AE), as I search the segments for availability, I assume I can only call in when I have found the seats I am satisfied with on ALL my segments. But what if I can't find availably on only one for e.g. YYC-LAX(SFO) as my first segment. Do I wait until that becomes available before calling in and run the risk of losing the known/seen availability on the longer segs? Is there any way around this issue?
2) I am booking for two of us. Myself and the Mrs, I am using my AE miles for my costs and the Mrs AE miles for her costs. How do I get AE to allow me to use the miles in her account? Will this be booked as two separate itineraries? Transferring her miles to my account to cover her costs is just too expensive. How difficult are AE about this?
1) I have my route planned out (and Okayed by AE), as I search the segments for availability, I assume I can only call in when I have found the seats I am satisfied with on ALL my segments. But what if I can't find availably on only one for e.g. YYC-LAX(SFO) as my first segment. Do I wait until that becomes available before calling in and run the risk of losing the known/seen availability on the longer segs? Is there any way around this issue?
2) I am booking for two of us. Myself and the Mrs, I am using my AE miles for my costs and the Mrs AE miles for her costs. How do I get AE to allow me to use the miles in her account? Will this be booked as two separate itineraries? Transferring her miles to my account to cover her costs is just too expensive. How difficult are AE about this?
#108




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 7,003
I have two questions for any of the more experienced redeemers.
1) I have my route planned out (and Okayed by AE), as I search the segments for availability, I assume I can only call in when I have found the seats I am satisfied with on ALL my segments. But what if I can't find availably on only one for e.g. YYC-LAX(SFO) as my first segment. Do I wait until that becomes available before calling in and run the risk of losing the known/seen availability on the longer segs? Is there any way around this issue?
1) I have my route planned out (and Okayed by AE), as I search the segments for availability, I assume I can only call in when I have found the seats I am satisfied with on ALL my segments. But what if I can't find availably on only one for e.g. YYC-LAX(SFO) as my first segment. Do I wait until that becomes available before calling in and run the risk of losing the known/seen availability on the longer segs? Is there any way around this issue?
2) I am booking for two of us. Myself and the Mrs, I am using my AE miles for my costs and the Mrs AE miles for her costs. How do I get AE to allow me to use the miles in her account? Will this be booked as two separate itineraries? Transferring her miles to my account to cover her costs is just too expensive. How difficult are AE about this?
#109


Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary
Programs: WestJet Platinum
Posts: 773
Thanks for the reply Pseudo.
Just doing dummy searches now to get a feel for availability as I am waiting for my dates outgoing and return to open up next year, and it seems like that the long haul segments mostly have availability, but its the short haul that don't (yet).
For example YYC-LAX/SFO nothing, but.....
LAX/SFO-NRT-SIN always seems to bring up something.
Thats why I asked this, as I foresee problems trying to string together a complex itin when the airlines make the short NA hops the difficult segs to get seats on.
Just doing dummy searches now to get a feel for availability as I am waiting for my dates outgoing and return to open up next year, and it seems like that the long haul segments mostly have availability, but its the short haul that don't (yet).
For example YYC-LAX/SFO nothing, but.....
LAX/SFO-NRT-SIN always seems to bring up something.
Thats why I asked this, as I foresee problems trying to string together a complex itin when the airlines make the short NA hops the difficult segs to get seats on.
#110




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 7,003
Thanks for the reply Pseudo.
Just doing dummy searches now to get a feel for availability as I am waiting for my dates outgoing and return to open up next year, and it seems like that the long haul segments mostly have availability, but its the short haul that don't (yet).
For example YYC-LAX/SFO nothing, but.....
LAX/SFO-NRT-SIN always seems to bring up something.
Thats why I asked this, as I foresee problems trying to string together a complex itin when the airlines make the short NA hops the difficult segs to get seats on.
Just doing dummy searches now to get a feel for availability as I am waiting for my dates outgoing and return to open up next year, and it seems like that the long haul segments mostly have availability, but its the short haul that don't (yet).
For example YYC-LAX/SFO nothing, but.....
LAX/SFO-NRT-SIN always seems to bring up something.
Thats why I asked this, as I foresee problems trying to string together a complex itin when the airlines make the short NA hops the difficult segs to get seats on.
I'd say still - depending on how rare the spots you're looking at getting on the long-haul are, you MIGHT want to consider booking with a fake return point and tack on the local flight for $90 when it opens up. That is to say, let's say you're booking F and see a spot on NRT-FRA open up on the 380, or NRT-JFK on the "inspiration of Japan" configuration, or whatever - I'd grab that and to hell with local flights, since those are so hard to get - then I'd just call and fix the local routing when it becomes available.
#111
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL AC*E50
Posts: 23,584
You need to have everything available to book the ticket. Unless you want to pay change fees ($101.90 per ticket) later to add those segments on.
Even if the desired short segments are in coach now, it may be worth securing them and monitoring availability.
Even if the desired short segments are in coach now, it may be worth securing them and monitoring availability.
#112




Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: All Accor Gold, 1865 Voyager, AE E35K, HH Gold,Hyatt, Hrtz Gold, Marriott Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 1,797
Thanks for the reply Pseudo.
Just doing dummy searches now to get a feel for availability as I am waiting for my dates outgoing and return to open up next year, and it seems like that the long haul segments mostly have availability, but its the short haul that don't (yet).
For example YYC-LAX/SFO nothing, but.....
LAX/SFO-NRT-SIN always seems to bring up something.
Thats why I asked this, as I foresee problems trying to string together a complex itin when the airlines make the short NA hops the difficult segs to get seats on.
Just doing dummy searches now to get a feel for availability as I am waiting for my dates outgoing and return to open up next year, and it seems like that the long haul segments mostly have availability, but its the short haul that don't (yet).
For example YYC-LAX/SFO nothing, but.....
LAX/SFO-NRT-SIN always seems to bring up something.
Thats why I asked this, as I foresee problems trying to string together a complex itin when the airlines make the short NA hops the difficult segs to get seats on.
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#113




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 7,003
Try looking at Continental in F. Some two cabin Continental flights show up as F, but number of points required is J. Booked Mrs. Allbrosca on points on Continental in F and J for J points to Hawaii through LAX on way down and Denver on way back and myself on an AC flight pass through Vancouver. Saved a bundle on fees, but we are travelling seperately. (As a sidenote, this is in December and should bring me over 35,000 miles and back to E!
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#114


Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,469
Or, if even economy is not available, book a dummy route, and then pay $90+tax change fee per ticket when your desired routing becomes available.
#115
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL AC*E50
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The United Express aircraft (such as E170s and CR700s) each have 6 "F" seats (one row less than AC) - these are the same size as Air Canada Embraer Executive "First" seats. 38"/20" width, so I am not sure what you mean by 'ever so slightly'
Continental flights are sold as X/I, United mostly as X/O for award purposes.
Aeroplan has chosen to charge first class mileage for United/USAir domestic "first" class - while UA/CO charge business rates for these. Continental "first" class is still charged business mileage (I class) by Aeroplan.
#116


Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary
Programs: WestJet Platinum
Posts: 773
Book those in economy if business is not available, then check business availability periodically. You can upgrade and pay no change fees. If you are in economy and business is not released before flight, you can stand-by at the airport for upgrade to business (on AC flights only).
Or, if even economy is not available, book a dummy route, and then pay $90+tax change fee per ticket when your desired routing becomes available.
Or, if even economy is not available, book a dummy route, and then pay $90+tax change fee per ticket when your desired routing becomes available.
Because of this, is it possible to book a departure city in North America with a different arrival city. e.g. LAX-XXX-YYY-SFO or YVR-XXX-YYY-LAX? Is that allowed within the rules of the mini RTW,or do you have to return to your departure city? If that is OK then it may make it a bit easier for me to pick up the short hauls at a later stage when they open up.
#117


Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary
Programs: WestJet Platinum
Posts: 773
Try looking at Continental in F. Some two cabin Continental flights show up as F, but number of points required is J. Booked Mrs. Allbrosca on points on Continental in F and J for J points to Hawaii through LAX on way down and Denver on way back and myself on an AC flight pass through Vancouver. Saved a bundle on fees, but we are travelling seperately. (As a sidenote, this is in December and should bring me over 35,000 miles and back to E!
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#118
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There are two cabins on North American routes
CO "First" + AC Executive "First" - this is business class (I)
however, for UA/US flights - AE chooses to charge First class mileage for those business class seats because of the designation 'first' (O)
to make things even more confusing, some flights which still only have two cabins on UA - there is both for sale (I/O) - those you can get for business mileage - but you will be seating in "first"
If you depart/arrive in different North American city - you lose one of your stopovers
In addition - you will pay $101.90 for adding those in - you would also need to leave space for these flights - ie. your trip in total still could not exceed 10 flights.
#119




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 7,003
United does not operate E90s ...
The United Express aircraft (such as E170s and CR700s) each have 6 "F" seats (one row less than AC) - these are the same size as Air Canada Embraer Executive "First" seats. 38"/20" width, so I am not sure what you mean by 'ever so slightly'
The United Express aircraft (such as E170s and CR700s) each have 6 "F" seats (one row less than AC) - these are the same size as Air Canada Embraer Executive "First" seats. 38"/20" width, so I am not sure what you mean by 'ever so slightly'
But seat size wise, I guess they are more than "ever so slightly" larger - I should be fair.
Last edited by Pseudo Nim; Nov 9, 2011 at 8:05 pm
#120
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 14
Awesome, thanks for the tips guys. I have booked. I will have 24 hours in the following:
LAX
SIN
IST
BUD
PRG
FRA
Any tips on what to see? I realize it's a short amount of time, but if I can get in 1 or 2 must sees, I would be happy.
Also, as a solo traveller, are all these safe?
And stopping in BKK, is that safe? Hotel or hostel?
Oh, and in Business class, do I have access to lounges with showers, beds, etc?
YYZ-LAX-SYD (4 weeks)
SYD-SIN-BKK (2 weeks)
SYD-IST-BUD-PRG-FRA-FCO (4 weeks)
FCO-YYZ
LAX
SIN
IST
BUD
PRG
FRA
Any tips on what to see? I realize it's a short amount of time, but if I can get in 1 or 2 must sees, I would be happy.
Also, as a solo traveller, are all these safe?
And stopping in BKK, is that safe? Hotel or hostel?
Oh, and in Business class, do I have access to lounges with showers, beds, etc?
YYZ-LAX-SYD (4 weeks)
SYD-SIN-BKK (2 weeks)
SYD-IST-BUD-PRG-FRA-FCO (4 weeks)
FCO-YYZ
Last edited by csifan29; Nov 13, 2011 at 12:14 pm

