Mini RTW Questions
Jan 12, 2012 | 4:31 pm
#196
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL AC*E50
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It seems to be very difficult to get into these smaller places that are not well served by star alliance.
In fact, I believe Thai air only goes as far as Manila. Suggest you may wish to consider an Asia 1 ticket to BKK/SIN with a paid add on with Philippine Airlines For an extra $400 to get you to whee you need to finish
Reward Availability on TG is usually excellent.
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In fact, I believe Thai air only goes as far as Manila. Suggest you may wish to consider an Asia 1 ticket to BKK/SIN with a paid add on with Philippine Airlines For an extra $400 to get you to whee you need to finish
Reward Availability on TG is usually excellent.
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I also dont think its worth spending extra miles/surcharge for Asia2 vs Asia1 in this case.
Jan 12, 2012 | 8:34 pm
#197
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,146
I have a mini-RTW at the old 120k level.
Travel must be initiated by end Jan to be vaild.
I have a work trip from YYZ-SFO so will start there and find my way back.
I cant seem to find any F class (with the exception of a little bit of avail on OZ) from SFO-ASIA-EUROPE-YYZ for Oct/NOv 2012.
Any idea why? Have TG, NH, LX and LH just really tightened up on F or are they just not released yet?
Travel must be initiated by end Jan to be vaild.
I have a work trip from YYZ-SFO so will start there and find my way back.
I cant seem to find any F class (with the exception of a little bit of avail on OZ) from SFO-ASIA-EUROPE-YYZ for Oct/NOv 2012.
Any idea why? Have TG, NH, LX and LH just really tightened up on F or are they just not released yet?
Jan 13, 2012 | 8:34 am
#198
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YGK
Posts: 228
I have a trip booked:
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK (open-jaw) SYD-SFO-YYZ
I called in to ask if I could add a BKK-BNE segment, making this:
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK (stop) BKK-BNE (open-jaw) SYD-SFO-YYZ
Was told that this would put me over MPM, and that there were no published fares by that routing. Can anyone help me understand what MPM applies? I'm a bit confused as to what my point of turnaround is even considered.
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK (open-jaw) SYD-SFO-YYZ
I called in to ask if I could add a BKK-BNE segment, making this:
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK (stop) BKK-BNE (open-jaw) SYD-SFO-YYZ
Was told that this would put me over MPM, and that there were no published fares by that routing. Can anyone help me understand what MPM applies? I'm a bit confused as to what my point of turnaround is even considered.
Jan 13, 2012 | 8:50 am
#199
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Programs: Aeroplan 50K, Hertz Gold
Posts: 1,363
I have a trip booked:
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK (open-jaw) SYD-SFO-YYZ
I called in to ask if I could add a BKK-BNE segment, making this:
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK (stop) BKK-BNE (open-jaw) SYD-SFO-YYZ
Was told that this would put me over MPM, and that there were no published fares by that routing. Can anyone help me understand what MPM applies? I'm a bit confused as to what my point of turnaround is even considered.
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK (open-jaw) SYD-SFO-YYZ
I called in to ask if I could add a BKK-BNE segment, making this:
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK (stop) BKK-BNE (open-jaw) SYD-SFO-YYZ
Was told that this would put me over MPM, and that there were no published fares by that routing. Can anyone help me understand what MPM applies? I'm a bit confused as to what my point of turnaround is even considered.
[KVS Availability Tool 6.8.1/Diamond - Reference: Maximum Permitted Mileage [MPM]: YYZ-SYD]
Code:
GI M 5M 10M 15M 20M 25M
MPM PA 11598 12177 12757 13337 13917 14497
Jan 13, 2012 | 9:08 am
#200
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YGK
Posts: 228
Therefore your routing to SYD must be over the Pacific only and not more than 12,177 miles. Use the Great Circle Mapper to find approximate mileage between cities. http://www.gcmap.com/
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK = 9823 mi
YYZ-BOS-ZRH-BKK-BNE = 14329 mi
Jan 13, 2012 | 9:41 am
#201
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PHL, NYC, DC
Posts: 9,763
But there are also published routings..........I believe must be via SIN (and not BKK via Europe)
Jan 14, 2012 | 4:46 pm
#202
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PVR
Programs: Aeroplan, Alaska Airlines
Posts: 420
It's only 5k more in J for Asia 2, but the flights don't seem to work so this is a better option. That's if I decide on this itinerary.
Jan 14, 2012 | 10:22 pm
#203
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 15
Been a silent member for several years finally booked my mini RTW trip during the upgrade to business bonus:
2 Passangers @ 75K each / Business Class Taxes about $400 or less
YXE - LIS
(VIA DEN, EWR)
LIS - BKK
(VIA FRA)
BKK - BOI
(VIA ICN, SFO) 24 Hr stop in ICN)
BOI - YXE
(VIA DEN)
I have a 332 from EWR - LIS, 744 from FRA to BKK.
How did I do? My first big redemption.
2 Passangers @ 75K each / Business Class Taxes about $400 or less
YXE - LIS
(VIA DEN, EWR)
LIS - BKK
(VIA FRA)
BKK - BOI
(VIA ICN, SFO) 24 Hr stop in ICN)
BOI - YXE
(VIA DEN)
I have a 332 from EWR - LIS, 744 from FRA to BKK.
How did I do? My first big redemption.
Jan 14, 2012 | 10:30 pm
#204
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Programs: Aeroplan 50K, Hertz Gold
Posts: 1,363
Because if you want Australia via AT, it would be a full RTW ticket, ie need way more miles... over 100k for Y. Asia 1/2 have MPM via PA and AT from NA, but Australia, New Zealand & South Pacific have MPM only via PA from NA.
Jan 14, 2012 | 10:50 pm
#205
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 7,003
Hmm - I didn't know that but that makes perfect sense, thinking about it. Thanks for that info!
Jan 14, 2012 | 10:58 pm
#206
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PHL, NYC, DC
Posts: 9,763
Then explain to me why several of us managed to get Mini RTWs between Canada-Australia and New Zealand via Atlantic/Pacific
Jan 15, 2012 | 12:54 am
#207
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Programs: Aeroplan 50K, Hertz Gold
Posts: 1,363
Just relaying what I was told by two different agents on two separate days in two separate locations trying to get to SYD or PER via PA and AT, agreeing at first, then saying it wont work after 10 min on hold after speaking to ticketing.
Jan 15, 2012 | 9:42 am
#209
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PHL, NYC, DC
Posts: 9,763
you know Atlantic routings via Singapore to Australia is permitted under SQ published routings right?
Its either MPM or Published routing, whichever is more beneficial to you.
Dont believe, give it a try........ If they question you about MPM, rebound by telling them its a published routing
Its either MPM or Published routing, whichever is more beneficial to you.
Dont believe, give it a try........ If they question you about MPM, rebound by telling them its a published routing
Last edited by global happy traveller; Jan 15, 2012 at 9:50 am
Jan 15, 2012 | 11:15 am
#210
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: YVR - Vancouver, with most winter weekends in Whistler.
Programs: Aeroplan 35K, Alaska MVP, Marriott Titanium / Lifetime Platinum, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 4,633
TG - No problem finding seats. TG Forum says that there have been difficulties locating inventory after Nov 1, 2012.
LX - 2 seats were loaded at the 300 day mark for Europe - Asia and Europe - Montreal. Nothing Europe - Americas.
LH - Nothing released to Star Award inventory until 21 days before flight Europe - Americas.
UA - Lots of availability.
NH - did not check but my understanding is that it is only released on short notice. NRT-ORD seems common.
Again, this was my experience in Dec 2011, this may change on a whim without notice.