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Jul 15, 2010 | 12:12 am

#16

mudd_stuffin

Join Date: Jul 2006

Location: YYZ

Programs: AC *P

Posts: 1,812

Quote:

Originally Posted by yvrluver

Where can I find info on the criterial for these Mini RTW trips that are being written about? I've looked on the AP web site and don't see anything about redemption levels, rules etc.

Thanks!

Do a search in this forum. This has been talked about for at least a year now and there are many many threads on this topic. There is nothing written on the Aeroplan website which makes it obvious but the rules are in the terms and conditions.

Jul 15, 2010 | 9:09 am

#17

getaround

Join Date: Jun 2007

Location: YUL

Posts: 2,283

Quote:

Originally Posted by yvrluver

Where can I find info on the criterial for these Mini RTW trips that are being written about? I've looked on the AP web site and don't see anything about redemption levels, rules etc.

Thanks!

Id say AP inst going to publish them; they have the basic rules though beyond that it's complicated. Plus it would be a very costly redemption should everyone take use of it..

I myself have concerns it is now being over served and await when AP will cut the redemption.

Jul 15, 2010 | 11:25 am

#18

DaveTO

Join Date: Jun 2009

Location: YYZ

Programs: AC E; Marriott Platinum

Posts: 2,409

They need more people redeeming YYZ-LHR in Y class, and less mini RTWs

Aug 18, 2010 | 10:40 pm

#19

fly_yag

Original Poster

Join Date: Feb 2002

Location: YYC

Programs: AC*SE, SPG Plat, National Exec Elite

Posts: 587

A couple more questions about this ticket that I'm hoping FT can help with:

1. Instead of flying YYC-YWG-YYZ what are the chances that I would be able to stand-by for a direct YYC-YYZ flight at check-in?

2. My connection in YWG is scheduled for 45 mins. Assuming that flights are on-time I know I'll have no problem making the connection but I'm wondering about my bags? If they went missing that early in the trip it would be tough to ever catch up with them. AC lists the minimum connection time as 25 mins but I'm still a little nervous.

Feb 4, 2011 | 1:28 pm

#20

bichoo

Join Date: Apr 2008

Location: Ottawa, ON

Programs: AC 50K, BV Titanium, Hilton Diamond

Posts: 406

mini-RTW: valid routing?

is this valid to SYD?

yow-ewr-fra-cdg-bkk(stop)-syd(final dest)-icn-nrt(stop)-ord-yow

Feb 4, 2011 | 2:44 pm

#21

thebobmc

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 974

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam_macleod

Second: I have been told that SYD-NRT-anything-YYZ is impossible due to mileage restrictions, so I suspect YOW would have the same problem. The other half of the trip looks reasonable though.

I think the key point here is that noone on Flyertalk can TELL you whether this is a valid routing. We can express opinions based on previous experience or comments by other posters in the multitude of other threads that exist discussing mini-RTW's.

But the only people who can TELL you whether the routing is valid are Aeroplan. And I suspect to find out for sure you will have to screw up your courage, make the call, wait on hold for a while, and hope you get someone knowledgable and helpful at the AP call centre.

Good luck and please post your results.

Feb 4, 2011 | 4:08 pm

#22

*A Flyer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Location: CBR

Programs: QF WP, AC*G

Posts: 1,223

My understanding is that everything there is fine except the stop in ORD. You would have to fly NRT-YYZ nonstop.

Feb 7, 2011 | 3:18 pm

#23

echino

Join Date: Feb 2010

Location: YVR

Posts: 1,469

Is it possible to go from YVR to MEL (or to anywhere in Australia / NZ / South Pacific) via Europe? Something like this?

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=YVR-FRA-DME-BKK-MEL

Feb 7, 2011 | 3:34 pm

#24

getaround

Join Date: Jun 2007

Location: YUL

Posts: 2,283

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebobmc

I think the key point here is that noone on Flyertalk can TELL you whether this is a valid routing.

One AP agent/AC flyertalk member once was able to assist.

Though he was fired probably was too helpful

Feb 7, 2011 | 3:42 pm

#25

will5404

Join Date: Jul 2008

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bichoo

is this valid to SYD?

yow-ewr-fra-cdg-bkk(stop)-syd(final dest)-icn-nrt(stop)-ord-yow

No I don't think so. You need to use a route to validate itineraries from YYZ (and likely YOW) to SYD and I don't think going through CDG be permitted. Or ICN for that matter.

Check the list of valid and booked itins.

Mar 13, 2011 | 9:33 am

#26

ulyparis

Join Date: Mar 2005

Location: YUL, BKK, VLC

Programs: Aeroplan E75

Posts: 617

Question about the validity of a mini RTW originating in Europe

I searched the forum and could not find an example of mini RTW using a Europe - Asia award via the Atlantic (or a Europe - Mexico award with return via Asia).

Would the following itinerary be valid?

VLC - MEX (stopover)
MEX - NRT (final destination)
NRT - BKK (stopover)
BKK - VLC (return to starting point)

Plenty of flight possibilities on *A (with several connexions though due to VLC not being a *A hub)

Mar 13, 2011 | 12:14 pm

#27

Yukonprince

Join Date: Oct 2004

Programs: Aeroplan, Delta, Starwood, Fairmount

Posts: 2,316

Quote:

Originally Posted by getaround

One AP agent/AC flyertalk member once was able to assist.

Though he was fired probably was too helpful

We sure miss him, eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apr 12, 2011 | 6:52 pm

#28

adlibitum

Join Date: Oct 2009

Location: SFO

Posts: 572

maximum permitted mileage

Maximum permitted mileage or MPM is mysterious to me. I called the Aeroplan Contact Centre asking about an itinerary I'm planning SFO-BKK with stopovers.

They said the MPM for SFO-BKK was 9506 miles (each way) so plus the 5% they allow comes to 19962, if my math is right.

But it seems others have booked routes exceeding this mileage. So this question:

Is MPM a fixed number that Aeroplan uses for all awards, or does it depend on what airline you fly, or just what any Star Alliance member might publish? In other words, is MPM the same for all Star Alliance members?

Thanks

Apr 14, 2011 | 11:03 am

#29

RoninTech

Join Date: Jul 2009

Location: Alberta, Canada

Programs: Aeroplan

Posts: 1,015

Quote:

Originally Posted by adlibitum

The direction is important as well as your turnaround point. You get more leeway for a TATL flight than for TPAC. Last month we booked:

YYC-SFO-FRA-BKK-HDY-BKK-FRA-YYC all F except for the Hat Yai J flights. The great circle mapper shows it to be 23536 miles (12780 out to HDY and 10756 to come home).

Apr 15, 2011 | 9:40 am

#30

adlibitum

Join Date: Oct 2009

Location: SFO

Posts: 572

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoninTech

Thanks, RoninTech.

Do you know what the published MPM for YYC-HDY is? I think you're saying it can depend on whether you travel TATL or TPAC. But given your routing, it seems I could do SFO-BKK with stopovers going up to near 23000 MPM.

And what seems to be big news is that starting July 15, F travel to Asia 1 goes up to 175K from 120K. Ouch!!