Originally Posted by mboca28

Posted the other day regarding standing by on Singapore airlines for a same day earlier flight

So I called Aeroplan instead and told them that they failed to make one change on my ticket the other day ( I actually did pay a change fee for a different routing change on this ticket).

The Aeroplans agents response?

I'm sorry let me make that change for you which he did and did not charge the $90. Per person change fee.

Now in my warped mind I didn't consider this as being dishonest because I did pay one change fee I just failed to tell this agent that the reason the second change was never made was because I never asked them too at the time.


It was an omission not a fib

Originally Posted by pr0digy25

Misposted in the FAQ thread, so this seems like a better venue.

Constructing a mRTW and was wondering what the timing is for connections within the same country (other than in North America)... I know in the US/Canada it tends to be 3 hours, anything above that and it's a stopover.

EG. Is KIX-NRT (23 hour layover)-LAX, or must it be KIX-NRT (3-4 hours or next available)-LAX?

Any info is appreiciated.

Originally Posted by SKYEG

Hello everyone,
after booking a quite simple mini-RTW I am looking into booking a more complicated one in F(hopefully). Just wanted some help regarding rules/MPM as I am not too familiar with them...

Using Expert Flier, I found YEG-ICN 5MPM is 13473 and YEG-SIN being 14315.

If I wanted SIN to be my final destination, would YEG-ZRH(Stop)-ICN(Stop)-SIN be valid? Or is that backtracking? using GCmaps the miles for that is 13020, so under MPM...

If I were to have ICN be my final destination, YEG-ZRH-SIN-ICN is 13980... a little over 500 miles over MPM+5(according to GC Maps)...What are my options?

And for both routings, can I route back going Atlantic? My last one was flying TPAC and since I am looking for F I would love to try a couple different products... And if I could, how can I find a routing? Do I look for different city pairs and see if there is space available and a flight that leaves the city under 24 hours making it a layover? All the routings on AE if I look up ICN-YEG is of course showing me only TPAC routes, with SIN-YEG showing me TPAC routes except a SIN-LHR-YEG(On AC J) which I definitely do not want. I use Expert Flyer, ANA, FLISEA and AE website to look up routings. Currently do not use KVS as it is too confusing...


I would be fine with SIN-Europe-YEG or ICN-Europe-YEG if that is allowed, do not care really which city the connection in Europe has to be in. I'm trying to avoid the UA SIN-ORD-YEG currently.

Thanks in advance, but looking at some of these RTW segments that are booked, I am really interested in doing an advanced one this time... And would love some advice on how to do it!

Oh and my YEG-ZRH-SIN-ICN or YEG-ZRH-ICN-SIN is both only 6 segments, maybe max 7 if I throw in a connection between ICN-SIN or vice versa, but I probably will not. So I could have technically 2-3 segments on the way back from ICN or SIN.

Originally Posted by mboca28

Posted the other day regarding standing by on Singapore airlines for a same day earlier flight

So I called Aeroplan instead and told them that they failed to make one change on my ticket the other day ( I actually did pay a change fee for a different routing change on this ticket).

The Aeroplans agents response?

I'm sorry let me make that change for you which he did and did not charge the $90. Per person change fee.

Now in my warped mind I didn't consider this as being dishonest because I did pay one change fee I just failed to tell this agent that the reason the second change was never made was because I never asked them too at the time.


It was an omission not a fib

Originally Posted by arcticbull

LOL I like that reasoning. Never worked for me though

Originally Posted by Klove007

Looking for some assistance in making a Mini-RTW starting from YUL, looking for atleast PPT, NRT and SYD.

Any suggestions for stopovers and/or routings to avoid the scam charges?

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

NRT and SYD should be doable using the YUL-LAX-NRT-SIN-SYD published SQ routing (good luck finding space, though). PPT, though? I don't even think *A serves that anymore - I think VN flies as a codeshare with DL/AF. Easier thing to do is RAR using SYD-AKL-RAR-LAX - much better place than PPT in my view anyway

Originally Posted by arcticbull

Yeah your best options to PPT, are, for once, SkyTeam and Delta miles. Delta partners with Air Tahiti Nui, AirFrance and Hawaiian, all of whom fly SFO/LAX-PPT.

There is NZ, I guess, SFO/LAX-AKL-PPT. but that may be over MPM for your routing, and good luck finding space there, let alone J space!

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Anybody know, outside the recent SQ glitch, what the chances of SQ opening up 3J seats on NRT-LAX on the 388 are between today and flight date in a few months? Just wondering whether I should even bother booking Y seats on that flight for now with the hope of changing later.

Originally Posted by arcticbull

In all seriousness zero may be too high a number

Try for ANA on the direct (or via SFO, or SEA) or Asiana (via ICN, then SFO, SEA, ORD or direct) or I suppose Air China.

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Yeah that's what I figured.

ANA is close to a zero chance - I was watching NRT-LAX/SFO/JFK/LHR/CDG for my last RTW (I really wanted to try the Inspiration of Japan layout) and not even a single J seat opened up, let alone three.

OZ is easily available for my dates, but I understand that despite their F product being excellent, their J is subpar (although I could go to the Koru lounge in LAX ..... you can never go to the Koru lounge too often). I'm also trying to save YQ fees...

Originally Posted by arcticbull

They have Quadra Smartium seats now on the west-coast routes. If you can snag one of those it's the best hard product + best soft product out there, easily as good as Singapore in my understanding.

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Really? On which aircraft? ICN-LAX is wide open on my dates, can even get 3J without fighting too hard.