Voucher Option
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#18
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Is United a "national airline"? How's their "automated process" for this working out? Have a look here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...g-refunds.html
#19
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Has anyone sought to refund a Aer Club MasterCard free flight booking? Specifically whether:
1) the original voucher will be reinstated to be used again
2) if the voucher is put back to use again, whether the original expiry date applies
i presume the suggestion will be to change to a new date rather than refund, but Im probably not going to have time for the trip given the amount of travel Ill be squeezing into Q4.
Given the free flight was anything but free given taxes and charges (and that Im due another free flight voucher soon) I suspect a credit note or refund and losing the voucher is the best Ill get.
1) the original voucher will be reinstated to be used again
2) if the voucher is put back to use again, whether the original expiry date applies
i presume the suggestion will be to change to a new date rather than refund, but Im probably not going to have time for the trip given the amount of travel Ill be squeezing into Q4.
Given the free flight was anything but free given taxes and charges (and that Im due another free flight voucher soon) I suspect a credit note or refund and losing the voucher is the best Ill get.
#20
Join Date: Jun 2013
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So I got the voucher today, took them five days to issue it (pretty good under current circumstances; they wrote it would take "up to 15 business days"). The voucher is valid for five years from the day of issue (the same is true for their purchasable gift vouchers), so way better than what most airlines are currently trying to satisfy their customers with.
Unfortunately EI did not add the 10% on top which they had announced in their initial email. Did anyone get the 10% bonus for flights that were cancelled by EI?
In my situation I think a voucher is better than cash refund, since the latter would go to the OTA the ticket has been purchased through, and I haven't heard back from them and I'm afraid that the OTA might file for bankruptcy before returning any money to customers.
Unfortunately EI did not add the 10% on top which they had announced in their initial email. Did anyone get the 10% bonus for flights that were cancelled by EI?
In my situation I think a voucher is better than cash refund, since the latter would go to the OTA the ticket has been purchased through, and I haven't heard back from them and I'm afraid that the OTA might file for bankruptcy before returning any money to customers.
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So I got the voucher today, took them five days to issue it (pretty good under current circumstances; they wrote it would take "up to 15 business days"). The voucher is valid for five years from the day of issue (the same is true for their purchasable gift vouchers), so way better than what most airlines are currently trying to satisfy their customers with.
Unfortunately EI did not add the 10% on top which they had announced in their initial email. Did anyone get the 10% bonus for flights that were cancelled by EI?
In my situation I think a voucher is better than cash refund, since the latter would go to the OTA the ticket has been purchased through, and I haven't heard back from them and I'm afraid that the OTA might file for bankruptcy before returning any money to customers.
Unfortunately EI did not add the 10% on top which they had announced in their initial email. Did anyone get the 10% bonus for flights that were cancelled by EI?
In my situation I think a voucher is better than cash refund, since the latter would go to the OTA the ticket has been purchased through, and I haven't heard back from them and I'm afraid that the OTA might file for bankruptcy before returning any money to customers.
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(I'm not permitted to post URLs as I am a new member but the article was in the Irish Times, life-and-style/travel, and was titled "passengers and agents allege aer lingus is breaking law on refunds-1.4213285")
...which indicate that the airline may use some loophole to avoid refunding us.
...which indicate that the airline may use some loophole to avoid refunding us.
Aer Lingus is simply breaking the law - in the hope that 99% of all pax won't sue them.
Most EU airlines are operating the same way these days.
#23
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If you ask for a refund on a cancelled flight you are being issued with a refund. If anyone is refused a refund in these circumstances they have a legal case.
Refunds are not being issued where a flight actually operates and a no show occurs, only taxes are refunded in that case
EI continues to operate flights on some routes. People in this circumstance feel ripped off but legally if the plane flies its the passengers problem if they cannot board due to an immigration or security issue. In this case a voucher for 10% more value than ticket is an option, even though there is no legal obligation to offer it.
EI is encouraging passengers to rebook to another date (change fee suspended) or cancel for a voucher + 10%. If you want to play chicken and hope a flight will become cancelled later on you stand the risk of getting effectively nothing.
Refunds are not being issued where a flight actually operates and a no show occurs, only taxes are refunded in that case
EI continues to operate flights on some routes. People in this circumstance feel ripped off but legally if the plane flies its the passengers problem if they cannot board due to an immigration or security issue. In this case a voucher for 10% more value than ticket is an option, even though there is no legal obligation to offer it.
EI is encouraging passengers to rebook to another date (change fee suspended) or cancel for a voucher + 10%. If you want to play chicken and hope a flight will become cancelled later on you stand the risk of getting effectively nothing.
#24
Join Date: Jul 2018
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The only problem I see with rebooking or getting voucher is "does Aerlingus still will be in business after all?" If not, paper voucher might at least help someone who is short on toilet paper at home.
#26
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Depends is that 10% of $400 or 10% of $14,000? For the former, to me, no way other than if there was a way to reach them (say via email/Twitter) with minimal time and effort. For the latter, I'd be on the phone now and wait six hours if needed. It all comes down to how you value your time and how much time it will take.
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So I got the voucher today, took them five days to issue it (pretty good under current circumstances; they wrote it would take "up to 15 business days"). The voucher is valid for five years from the day of issue (the same is true for their purchasable gift vouchers), so way better than what most airlines are currently trying to satisfy their customers with.
Originally Posted by The Irish Times
The Consumer Protection (Gift Vouchers) Act will impose a minimum expiry date of five years for vouchers and ban contract terms which require them to be spent in a single transaction.
The new law will also ban contract terms that limit the number of vouchers that can be used in a transaction and prohibit the cancellation of gift vouchers or the imposition of charges by airlines if the name of a gift voucher recipient differs from the name on a passport.
In passing the laws Ireland has become the first European country to enact legislation protecting consumers in this area.
The new law will also ban contract terms that limit the number of vouchers that can be used in a transaction and prohibit the cancellation of gift vouchers or the imposition of charges by airlines if the name of a gift voucher recipient differs from the name on a passport.
In passing the laws Ireland has become the first European country to enact legislation protecting consumers in this area.
While in some ways this is customer-friendly, in other ways it's not; with such a long period to use the voucher, it actively encourages many such recipients to file it away and forget all about it and therefore never to spend the voucher. Additionally, waiting for as long as 5 years to spend a voucher means that the spending power of that voucher will have markedly dropped. Prices tend to go only one way - up.
#28
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Has anyone sought to refund a Aer Club MasterCard free flight booking? Specifically whether:
1) the original voucher will be reinstated to be used again
2) if the voucher is put back to use again, whether the original expiry date applies
i presume the suggestion will be to change to a new date rather than refund, but Im probably not going to have time for the trip given the amount of travel Ill be squeezing into Q4.
Given the free flight was anything but free given taxes and charges (and that Im due another free flight voucher soon) I suspect a credit note or refund and losing the voucher is the best Ill get.
1) the original voucher will be reinstated to be used again
2) if the voucher is put back to use again, whether the original expiry date applies
i presume the suggestion will be to change to a new date rather than refund, but Im probably not going to have time for the trip given the amount of travel Ill be squeezing into Q4.
Given the free flight was anything but free given taxes and charges (and that Im due another free flight voucher soon) I suspect a credit note or refund and losing the voucher is the best Ill get.
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