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A friendly reminder that Flyertalk is not a marketplace, and nothing may be offered (or solicited) for sale or barter within the general forums - which includes offering vouchers for free. For those with sufficient posts and length of membership, trading/exchange is allowed solely within Coupon Connection, and then only in accordance with the specific rules of that forum.

Please do not attempt to solicit, sell or trade upgrade vouchers within this forum. Posts will be deleted and the members concerned potentially subject to disciplinary action. **Please note that this includes directly using the PM system to do so without first posting in Coupon Connection**. Thanks for your co-operation.
A3 provides all Gold members with four vouchers for upgrade from Economy to Business. Silver members get two upgrade vouchers.

Criteria
  • You must be travelling on A3 or OA metal - codeshares are not included.
  • The original ticket must be issued on either A3 (390) or OA (050) ticket stock.
  • Only revenue (paid) tickets, in fare classes other than U, P & T on a GoLight fare basis, can be upgraded, but not redemption tickets.
  • All flights on the ticket must be on A3 or OA metal.
  • There must be award availability in I-class for the upgrades to clear. You can check this by logging in to M&B then going to https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon...t/spend-miles/ The results page will initially be a calendar. To see Business availability, you have to click through to the next step. (You can also use a free or paid tool such as ANA website, UA website (looking for saver award space), Aeroplan, AwardNexus or ExpertFlyer to check for availability.)
  • One coupon per person per journey leg is required - so, for example, TXL-ATH-SKG and return via the same route would require four coupons per person.
  • Anyone can be upgraded using the coupons - you do not have to be travelling on the same booking or even the same plane.

Procedure
  • Call A3 to request the upgrade. The phone numbers are listed at https://aegeanairlines.custhelp.com/ (most of them should go to the same call centre in Greece).
  • If successful, a new ticket will be issued (with a new number). The PNR will remain unchanged.
  • You are liable for any extra taxes applicable to Business Class (e.g. APD from the UK). Sometimes this gets charged, sometimes it doesn't - if it's due and you're not charged because the agent forgets, you've just been lucky.
  • If there's no immediate I-class availability, you can ask to be waitlisted for upgrade. The ability to waitlist was reported to have been removed in August 2016, but was again possible in September. Check with the agent - option available on May 2018.
    • in case you requested to be waitlisted for upgrade and want to check if the customer care agent made the changes on your booking you can check the reservation on checkmytrip.com (click here), the leg you requested the upgrade will be shown here as ”Waitlisted”.
  • If you wish to upgrade one segment of a multi-segment trip (e.g. XXX-ATH-YYY) and there is availability on the leg you wish to upgrade, you may still have to be waitlisted due to married segment issues. The process of clearing the waitlist is somewhat confusing and may result in frustration due to the availability seeming to disappear but in reality, this may mean that the segments have been "unmarried" and the availability has been allocated to your reservation. See post 2272 and the update in post 2294 for more details.

Benefits
  • No matter what the fare basis of the original ticket, you receive full Business Class benefits after upgrade.
  • This includes lounge access (useful if you're upgrading someone other than yourself who has no status, or if you've run out of Silver lounge vouchers) and full baggage allowance (it applies for first leg as well, in case you are upgraded only on the 2nd leg of your trip - confirmed on the etix).
  • Because the ticket books as a redemption, the free car hire is not included.

Mileage/segment earning
  • You will earn at the underlying rate of your purchased ticket in economy, not at a business class rate. Because status miles are awarded, this also counts as a segment for re-qualification purposes.
  • The flights may credit automatically, but may take longer to credit than tickets that have not been changed. They may also credit as 0 miles, and later change to the correct rate. If the flights have not credited properly after a few weeks then calling A3 will rectify this rapidly.

Expiry
  • The vouchers expire at the end of your membership year - they do not carry over, even if status is retained. A new set is issued every year.
  • It is the date when you use the voucher that matters. It can upgrade a flight that takes place after expiry as long as you apply the voucher before.
  • On upgrade from Silver to Gold, any remaining Silver upgrade coupons expire, but they are replaced by four Gold ones which expire at the end of the Gold membership year.

BEWARE
  • Once you have upgraded your seat, your ticket will be reissued. Suddenly, this ticket may be VERY expensive to change. If, for instance, you later decide to travel on a different date, you will probably be required to rebook into Business, even if Economy was available for new bookings. A3 will charge you the difference from your original Economy fare to a NEW Business fare. Plus fees, taxes and whatnot. Update 18/08/2021: this appears to no longer be the case, as an upgraded ticket was changed and the underlying Economy fare was used for the upgraded segments. The coupon was "removed" from the old dates and "reapplied" to the new dates.
  • Coupons will not be returned/reinstated. Once a coupon is applied, it is gone for good (the T&Cs printed on the coupons allow for date and time changes, but not route changes).
  • If you want to provide your coupons to upgrade a friend's travel, it is advisable to call in yourself. Your friend can call in if they know your name, birthdate, M&B-number and the email address associated with your account. That means: Anyone who knows these particulars can use your coupons without your knowledge. They do NOT need the coupon numbers.
  • Crediting upgraded segments to another program will likely fail, as it will be reported as I-class. It may be possible to retro-claim the miles.
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Old Sep 1, 2015, 2:48 pm
  #661  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Got back yesterday from my trip CPH-ATH-RHO-ATH-CPH. All four sectors credited correctly after around 36h each. Inflight food and service was very nice.

The class divisor was missing on the RHO-ATH A321 flight so all 7 of us in the 2 rows of business got free flight vouchers (taxes not included, some restrictions). Seems to be valid for any flight in their network in the class you were booked. Lets see if they consider me booked in business or not. Very nice compensation for a problem I did not notice..
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Old Sep 2, 2015, 3:42 pm
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That is surprising - I have seen the divider missing quite a few times, also on mainline routes (eg MUC-ATH)...but never seen any vouchers for this 'problem'.
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Old Sep 2, 2015, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Yarrick
Got back yesterday from my trip CPH-ATH-RHO-ATH-CPH. All four sectors credited correctly after around 36h each. Inflight food and service was very nice.

The class divisor was missing on the RHO-ATH A321 flight so all 7 of us in the 2 rows of business got free flight vouchers (taxes not included, some restrictions). Seems to be valid for any flight in their network in the class you were booked. Lets see if they consider me booked in business or not. Very nice compensation for a problem I did not notice..
Never heard of that happening before . I have been on BA a few times and it has been missing and they never offer anything. ^
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Old Sep 3, 2015, 2:33 am
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I wouldn't worry too much. If these "free" flight vouchers are anything like the ones my friends recently received for a 4hr delay in ATH then they're basically worthless anyway...

The vouchers are for the same type of trip (domestic/international) as the flight on which the problem occurred and they DO NOT include the taxes and fees. They are bookable only by telephone so the 20 Euro booking fee applies and there are a ton of blackout dates (basically all July/August, Christmas, Easter, Assumption and other religious holidays) and must be booked a couple of weeks in advance (iirc). So basically, for a typical 60 Euro domestic fare, with 35 Euro tax (out of ATH, less inbound) and 20 Euro fee, the voucher is worth 5 Euro!

The ones my friends got were basically (very badly) photocopied A4 sheets with no serial number and the problem-flight details written in pen at the bottom. I think that alone testifies to their lack of any real value! I'd be interested to hear what kind of voucher the OP received - maybe it's something different.

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Old Sep 4, 2015, 8:54 am
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Hi FT,

I can't seem to find a post that explains the rules in which these coupons could be redeemed. I just called Aegean for my tomorrow's flight and they advised there was no availability. Is there always a pool of seats that can be upgraded? Can it happen that a couple of hours before the flight the availability could be raised because they no longer will block the bookings for business class?

Any thoughts? Many thanks!
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Old Sep 4, 2015, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by goqsane
Hi FT,

I can't seem to find a post that explains the rules in which these coupons could be redeemed. I just called Aegean for my tomorrow's flight and they advised there was no availability. Is there always a pool of seats that can be upgraded? Can it happen that a couple of hours before the flight the availability could be raised because they no longer will block the bookings for business class?

Any thoughts? Many thanks!
The wiki at the top of this thread should help answer your questions, I think.

A couple of hours before the flight to open up more seats? I'm afraid I'd approximate the chances at about 0.0001%! 24 hours would be the outside due to the practicalities of catering operations, if nothing else.
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Old Sep 4, 2015, 11:29 am
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goqsane, your best course of action is to try again in a bit more than 2 hours before your flight, and then please report back the result to us, along with the load of Y and J pax on that flight
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Old Sep 4, 2015, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Knobbgb
I wouldn't worry too much. If these "free" flight vouchers are anything like the ones my friends recently received for a 4hr delay in ATH then they're basically worthless anyway...

The vouchers are for the same type of trip (domestic/international) as the flight on which the problem occurred and they DO NOT include the taxes and fees. They are bookable only by telephone so the 20 Euro booking fee applies and there are a ton of blackout dates (basically all July/August, Christmas, Easter, Assumption and other religious holidays) and must be booked a couple of weeks in advance (iirc). So basically, for a typical 60 Euro domestic fare, with 35 Euro tax (out of ATH, less inbound) and 20 Euro fee, the voucher is worth 5 Euro!

The ones my friends got were basically (very badly) photocopied A4 sheets with no serial number and the problem-flight details written in pen at the bottom. I think that alone testifies to their lack of any real value! I'd be interested to hear what kind of voucher the OP received - maybe it's something different.

Yes it is the same one - but even without any info about which flight it was from. So I am not sure I will have any use for it.

Another strange thing that happened on the trip was that on the last leg when I checked my bag the first boarding pass had seat SBY written on it. The agent made a quick call somewhere and then printed a new one with a proper seat. There was space left in business so I have no idea why that happened, I had even selected a seat in advance.
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Old Sep 5, 2015, 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by kanor
goqsane, your best course of action is to try again in a bit more than 2 hours before your flight, and then please report back the result to us, along with the load of Y and J pax on that flight
Hi kanor, I've successfully upgraded the flight. Waiting does help I'll report back. Thanks.
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Old Sep 9, 2015, 7:26 am
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Hello,

I am planning to do four Aegean flights to maintain my Turkish Elite Level.

Did anyone used the Upgrade voucher AND got the the miles credited to another FF program than A3 M+B successfully?

Not getting any TK-Miles in the end would make the whole trip useless for me. That's why I'm thinking about not using the voucher no to risk anything...

Thanks for your advice!
Nico
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Old Sep 9, 2015, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by nicobs
Hello,

I am planning to do four Aegean flights to maintain my Turkish Elite Level.

Did anyone used the Upgrade voucher AND got the the miles credited to another FF program than A3 M+B successfully?

Not getting any TK-Miles in the end would make the whole trip useless for me. That's why I'm thinking about not using the voucher no to risk anything...

Thanks for your advice!
Nico
Well if you read some previous discussions on this, even if you credit upgraded flights to A3 often they fail to post automatically, requiring a phone call to solve the issue. If this is to happen to you crediting to TK, there is a big chance getting into a grey area where A3 and TK shift responsibility to thevother party. Honestly, giventhe functioning of A3's IT systems and TK's notoriously bad costumer service, I would be very careful and either don't upgrade if miles are more important than the upgrae, or just post miles to A3.
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Old Sep 9, 2015, 12:04 pm
  #672  
 
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Originally Posted by nicobs
Hello,

I am planning to do four Aegean flights to maintain my Turkish Elite Level.

Did anyone used the Upgrade voucher AND got the the miles credited to another FF program than A3 M+B successfully?

Not getting any TK-Miles in the end would make the whole trip useless for me. That's why I'm thinking about not using the voucher no to risk anything...

Thanks for your advice!
Nico
I know people that have done this successfully. Miles credited were for the original fare paid. Being upgraded to I Class did not cause any issues. Thats not to say in your case it will but a good idea that it has been done ok.
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Old Sep 9, 2015, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by nicobs
Hello,

I am planning to do four Aegean flights to maintain my Turkish Elite Level.

Did anyone used the Upgrade voucher AND got the the miles credited to another FF program than A3 M+B successfully?

Not getting any TK-Miles in the end would make the whole trip useless for me. That's why I'm thinking about not using the voucher no to risk anything...

Thanks for your advice!
Nico
I have the same problem, upgraded mothers flights to business class between London and Athens in May on Aegean with my *A miles&bonus vouchers. Her original paid flights (economy) have still not been credited to Voyager South African Airways despite numerous emails.
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Old Sep 11, 2015, 2:54 am
  #674  
 
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I booked some A3 flights in early January and immediately grabbed two business class seats on the first leg with the seat upgrade coupons. I've been monitoring the flights ever since, and the award/upgrade inventory has not been replenished. I only read about the waitlisting possibility yesterday, so this morning I called to waitlist another two seats - the agent offered this proactively. ^ I got a call back about 30min later saying that the flight was full.

On the A3 website there are still (at least) two business class seats for sale, and by the look of the price of the available economy seats, the flight doesn't look to be that full (or at least not overbooked). I wonder if it makes sense to still try to request/waitlist again closer to departure?
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Old Sep 11, 2015, 4:40 am
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I'm in UK and I'm wondering which number should I call to request the upgrade. The UK number for reservation or the Greece customer service number?
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