Lounge Access with A3*G Card but non-*G status on boarding pass
#121
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: WSSS/RCTP
Programs: SQ KF, A3 Gold, CI Dynasty, UA MileagePlus, ANA AMC, HH Gold, M&C Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 317
Hi all,
So from what I've gathered, with regards to an upcoming trip that I have next month SIN-HKG and HKG-SIN on SQ, I'll leave my A3 *G FFP number in the system. Upon check in and receiving my boarding pass, I can log into SQ's website and change my FFP back to SQ KF?
Noting that I actually want all the miles to be credited to SQ KF.
So from what I've gathered, with regards to an upcoming trip that I have next month SIN-HKG and HKG-SIN on SQ, I'll leave my A3 *G FFP number in the system. Upon check in and receiving my boarding pass, I can log into SQ's website and change my FFP back to SQ KF?
Noting that I actually want all the miles to be credited to SQ KF.
#122
Community Director
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Norwich, UK
Programs: A3*G, BA Gold, BD Gold (in memoriam), IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 8,479
Hi all,
So from what I've gathered, with regards to an upcoming trip that I have next month SIN-HKG and HKG-SIN on SQ, I'll leave my A3 *G FFP number in the system. Upon check in and receiving my boarding pass, I can log into SQ's website and change my FFP back to SQ KF?
Noting that I actually want all the miles to be credited to SQ KF.
So from what I've gathered, with regards to an upcoming trip that I have next month SIN-HKG and HKG-SIN on SQ, I'll leave my A3 *G FFP number in the system. Upon check in and receiving my boarding pass, I can log into SQ's website and change my FFP back to SQ KF?
Noting that I actually want all the miles to be credited to SQ KF.
I would personally put the KF number in the booking and use the card for lounge access (for what that's worth at SIN, in honesty - the SQ *G lounge in T3 must be one of the worst in the network).
#123
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: WSSS/RCTP
Programs: SQ KF, A3 Gold, CI Dynasty, UA MileagePlus, ANA AMC, HH Gold, M&C Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 317
In my experience, just showing a *G card at the *G lounge in SIN is sufficient (I did it when moving from BD Diamond Club to A3 a couple of years ago) - and SQ's website generally does not allow a change to the FF number once entered (at least that's the case for TA bookings).
I would personally put the KF number in the booking and use the card for lounge access (for what that's worth at SIN, in honesty - the SQ *G lounge in T3 must be one of the worst in the network).
I would personally put the KF number in the booking and use the card for lounge access (for what that's worth at SIN, in honesty - the SQ *G lounge in T3 must be one of the worst in the network).
I'm just curious as to will the system work the way I mentioned. Check in with A3 FFP number, upon receiving boarding pass, go to the internet to change the FFP back to SQ KF. Anybody done that before?
#124
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Presumably it can be done at check-in or possibly at the lounge, although bear in mind that SQ are pretty much a law unto themselves and may well refuse to do something that you see as perfectly reasonable.
Additionally, with SQ's/Changi's procedures of checking your passport before they tick or stamp your boarding pass, which in turn allows you through airside and on the plane, I personally wouldn't chance it given the ease with which you can just wave a card at them anyway.
There's no special treatment for *G in terms of priority lines that you'd be missing out on - so you have everything to lose and nothing to gain.
#125
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 487
Hate to bump an old thread, but here is what happened today for me:
Flying on UA metal, domestic US. Online Check-in with A3 (Gold). Actually was not presented with an option to change back to MileagePlus.
Got to the United Lounge, no problem. Asked to change the FF# on my way out, which was also no problem. However, the boarding group used to be premier access when I had the A3 on there, but that changed to group 3 after changing over to MP (I have no status on United). This goes against the theory that the system remembers the most generous benefits, unless that theory only holds when there is no human involved in changing the programs manually. She also took my boarding pass that had *G, so I was left with a generic boarding pass. Group 3? Ugh!
But, thankfully I had the mobile boarding passes sent to me on initial online checkin, I was ready to play "oh yeah I forgot" card if called out, but... boarded group 1 with the mobile pass, nothing was said. I guess the barcodes aren't coded with boarding group numbers.
Flying on UA metal, domestic US. Online Check-in with A3 (Gold). Actually was not presented with an option to change back to MileagePlus.
Got to the United Lounge, no problem. Asked to change the FF# on my way out, which was also no problem. However, the boarding group used to be premier access when I had the A3 on there, but that changed to group 3 after changing over to MP (I have no status on United). This goes against the theory that the system remembers the most generous benefits, unless that theory only holds when there is no human involved in changing the programs manually. She also took my boarding pass that had *G, so I was left with a generic boarding pass. Group 3? Ugh!
But, thankfully I had the mobile boarding passes sent to me on initial online checkin, I was ready to play "oh yeah I forgot" card if called out, but... boarded group 1 with the mobile pass, nothing was said. I guess the barcodes aren't coded with boarding group numbers.
#126
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 487
2nd data point: I had 2 legs on this itinerary, the 1st of which I posted above. The 2nd leg, I tried using my mobile passes like I did but it beeped and said invalid barcode. So maybe it just took a little bit to process in the system.
#127
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Norwich, UK
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Hate to bump an old thread, but here is what happened today for me:
Flying on UA metal, domestic US. Online Check-in with A3 (Gold). Actually was not presented with an option to change back to MileagePlus.
Got to the United Lounge, no problem. Asked to change the FF# on my way out, which was also no problem. However, the boarding group used to be premier access when I had the A3 on there, but that changed to group 3 after changing over to MP (I have no status on United). This goes against the theory that the system remembers the most generous benefits, unless that theory only holds when there is no human involved in changing the programs manually. She also took my boarding pass that had *G, so I was left with a generic boarding pass. Group 3? Ugh!
But, thankfully I had the mobile boarding passes sent to me on initial online checkin, I was ready to play "oh yeah I forgot" card if called out, but... boarded group 1 with the mobile pass, nothing was said. I guess the barcodes aren't coded with boarding group numbers.
Flying on UA metal, domestic US. Online Check-in with A3 (Gold). Actually was not presented with an option to change back to MileagePlus.
Got to the United Lounge, no problem. Asked to change the FF# on my way out, which was also no problem. However, the boarding group used to be premier access when I had the A3 on there, but that changed to group 3 after changing over to MP (I have no status on United). This goes against the theory that the system remembers the most generous benefits, unless that theory only holds when there is no human involved in changing the programs manually. She also took my boarding pass that had *G, so I was left with a generic boarding pass. Group 3? Ugh!
But, thankfully I had the mobile boarding passes sent to me on initial online checkin, I was ready to play "oh yeah I forgot" card if called out, but... boarded group 1 with the mobile pass, nothing was said. I guess the barcodes aren't coded with boarding group numbers.
You need to decide in future whether you want to have lounge access or priority boarding - you can't have both.
#128
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: Marriott Titanium, AC E50, National Exec
Posts: 516
Following up to this, it seems that unless you are in an eligible class, the FFP gets billed for your access. So not crediting your miles is actually hurting the program in the end. As NWIFlyer said "You can't have your cake and eat it too"!
Pick what is most important to you and stick with it or it's basically going to be spoiled for everyone in the long run.
Someone asked about A3's impact to MLLs and this was the response:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22988058-post88.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22877906-post319.html
Pick what is most important to you and stick with it or it's basically going to be spoiled for everyone in the long run.
Someone asked about A3's impact to MLLs and this was the response:
This isn't really something we have the ability to control. By STAR guidelines, *G members are entitled to priority services, including priority boarding. It's up to each member carrier to determine at which level it grants *G status (as to your point, they foot the bill for lounge entries, etc.)
Originally Posted by Ben Smith
Some of these are confidential but what I can tell you is when accessing Star lounges using your AC Gold status it is AC that gets billed regardless of operating carrier and when you access a Star lounge using your cabin eligibility it is the operating carrier that pays.
Operating carrier gets paid regardless of whose ticket stock is used
Operating carrier gets paid regardless of whose ticket stock is used
Last edited by tkyoshi; Jun 11, 2014 at 11:51 am
#130
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 487
The latter experience is pretty much in line with what I'd expect to happen in terms of boarding groups with UA. You can't have your cake and eat it (although, to be fair, the chance of finding decent cake in a United Club is pretty remote in the first place)!
You need to decide in future whether you want to have lounge access or priority boarding - you can't have both.
You need to decide in future whether you want to have lounge access or priority boarding - you can't have both.
Much rather have lounge access...
#131
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Europe
Programs: Flying Blue: Platinum for Life Elite Plus - EuroBonus: Gold
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Hi guys,
I got a question:
How do you maintain your status as gold in Miles&Bonus, while earning points in another Star Alliance airline?
Sincerely,
SB
I got a question:
How do you maintain your status as gold in Miles&Bonus, while earning points in another Star Alliance airline?
Sincerely,
SB
#132
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: homeless 2.0
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Posts: 1,065
Because there is a FAQ for most things if you search.
#134
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/aegea...sh-course.html
Because there is a FAQ for most things if you search.
Because there is a FAQ for most things if you search.
SB