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Old Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
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Intercontinental and Transcontinental

Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).


Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH


American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.

Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)

Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE

Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)

Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo


British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.

Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)

Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO

Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain

Between Singapore and
Sydney


Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich

Between Vancouver and
New York JFK


Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei


Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)

Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco

Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK


LATAM
None


Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380

Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow


Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)

Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles

Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore

Between Singapore and
London Heathrow


Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380

Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)


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Old Mar 31, 2014, 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by Spicy B
I'm probably gonna miss some, but from my research:

GRU
CDG
FRA
LIM
MAD
MXP
MEX
MIA
MCO
JFK

GIG
JFK
MIA
LHR
As far as I know, there is no F on JJ flights from GIG to either JFK or MIA; there is no JJ flight from GIG to LHR. The only oneworld flight with F that I can think of is BA to LHR. Maybe during the World Cup ....
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Old Apr 1, 2014, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Cathay Pacific

Routes
Between Hong Kong and

Dubai (some flights)

zzz
Any sample dates HKG-DXB with CX F? I can't seem to find any...
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Old Apr 1, 2014, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by awpeters
Any sample dates HKG-DXB with CX F? I can't seem to find any...
I don't see any as far out as I can search either using ITA matrix.
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Old Apr 1, 2014, 11:55 pm
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Originally Posted by ajnaro
As far as I know, there is no F on JJ flights from GIG to either JFK or MIA; there is no JJ flight from GIG to LHR. The only oneworld flight with F that I can think of is BA to LHR. Maybe during the World Cup ....
Thanks - this is corrected.

Originally Posted by awpeters
Any sample dates HKG-DXB with CX F? I can't seem to find any...
Originally Posted by tys90
I don't see any as far out as I can search either using ITA matrix.
Thanks - this is corrected.


Does anyone have the info for US Airways?
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Old Apr 2, 2014, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Thanks - this is corrected.





Thanks - this is corrected.


Does anyone have the info for US Airways?
No international First Class on US Airways.
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Old Apr 14, 2014, 5:30 pm
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No First on BA LHR-EZE-LHR.

http://ftdashboard.net/flight/ba245.htm
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Old Apr 15, 2014, 1:24 am
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Originally Posted by tys90
No international First Class on US Airways.
Originally Posted by Peppep
No First on BA LHR-EZE-LHR.

http://ftdashboard.net/flight/ba245.htm

Thanks - updated.
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Old May 20, 2014, 10:12 am
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CX to fly HKG-ZRH in S15:

http://airlineroute.net/2014/05/19/cx-zrh-s15/
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Old May 20, 2014, 11:04 am
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TAM (JJ) dropping First from all routes. Can't book any longer. Will be completely retired by 1 November.
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Old May 20, 2014, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by AlwaysOnTheRoad
TAM (JJ) dropping First from all routes. Can't book any longer. Will be completely retired by 1 November.
Unless something changed recently, they still sell First on flights before November. I've booked JFK-GRU in First after the announcement.
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Old May 21, 2014, 12:38 am
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No CX F HKG/YYZ. Was phased out a year or more ago, IIRC. I used to take it a lot because F award space availability was above average on this route.
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Old Jun 24, 2014, 9:12 am
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AA now flies F HKG-DFW

For CX only some 777-300ER have F. HKG-LHR is F on some flights only. Very few routes have F on all flights now.
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Old Jun 25, 2014, 2:18 am
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Thanks for the updates. OP is updated to here.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 11:42 pm
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Presumably we should add

SYD-DFW (from 29 Sep)

And QF still have two 747s with F (albeit going quickly) - just OEB, OJM with F, and OJA/ OJI the non-refurbs with old J. The F planes seem to be mostly doing Joburg and Tokyo flights (though not sold as such)
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Old Sep 20, 2014, 1:08 pm
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Does anyone know if CX F HKG-FCO still exists?
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