NEW: KLM Economy Comfort!
Nov 6, 2011, 1:46 am
#286
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM)
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rotterdam, NL
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Nov 12, 2011, 1:53 pm
#287
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: FB plf; IB oro; LA black
Posts: 457
First KLM experience since 20 years a few days ago.
No upgrades from Y to Y+ or Y+ to J (Y about 95% charge, Y+ 66%, J 50%) either on OLCI, checking or in plane (even salvage one).
No physical separation. (770-200 PH BQL).
Surely does worth the money.
Return factor to KLM about 0. (Horific service: Barefoot in the galley, Trays on the carpet? Passenger interaction near to 0 (I speak English, French? German and Spanish)...
No upgrades from Y to Y+ or Y+ to J (Y about 95% charge, Y+ 66%, J 50%) either on OLCI, checking or in plane (even salvage one).
No physical separation. (770-200 PH BQL).
Surely does worth the money.
Return factor to KLM about 0. (Horific service: Barefoot in the galley, Trays on the carpet? Passenger interaction near to 0 (I speak English, French? German and Spanish)...
Nov 12, 2011, 8:25 pm
#288
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Japan
Posts: 5,577
First KLM experience since 20 years a few days ago.
No upgrades from Y to Y+ or Y+ to J (Y about 95% charge, Y+ 66%, J 50%) either on OLCI, checking or in plane (even salvage one).
No physical separation. (770-200 PH BQL).
Surely does worth the money.
Return factor to KLM about 0. (Horific service: Barefoot in the galley, Trays on the carpet? Passenger interaction near to 0 (I speak English, French? German and Spanish)...
No upgrades from Y to Y+ or Y+ to J (Y about 95% charge, Y+ 66%, J 50%) either on OLCI, checking or in plane (even salvage one).
No physical separation. (770-200 PH BQL).
Surely does worth the money.
Return factor to KLM about 0. (Horific service: Barefoot in the galley, Trays on the carpet? Passenger interaction near to 0 (I speak English, French? German and Spanish)...
Where did you fly from? And where to?
I myself am not too crazy about KLM, but I flew them a lot during my NW days out of NRT to Europe, and they have always been professional and courteous, I have no beef at all with the crews at all. I complained about off duty staff taking business class seats, otherwise I was ok. So, I am baffled about your problems, because honestly, I do miss KL a bit( most of all because I don't get the houses anymore, but that's another story!! ).
Nov 13, 2011, 10:06 am
#289
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: FB plf; IB oro; LA black
Posts: 457
LIM AMS
Forgot to tell that I still don't received any communication (SMS or mail) about the one hour delay due to a late departure of the plane from AMS (so quite previsible
) but as you say it's another story and not EC problem. 37 segemnts FB this year 1st KLM LC (2 very short CC AMS BRU) and don't thing I would use more KLM on LC.
Forgot to tell that I still don't received any communication (SMS or mail) about the one hour delay due to a late departure of the plane from AMS (so quite previsible
) but as you say it's another story and not EC problem. 37 segemnts FB this year 1st KLM LC (2 very short CC AMS BRU) and don't thing I would use more KLM on LC.
Nov 18, 2011, 8:09 am
#291
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SIN (with a bit of ZRH sprinkled in)
Posts: 9,455
Seatguru doesn't show row12 to be the first economy row on any MD-11 setup that KLM flies. Generally the first few Economy rows should be better (Y+) - so row12 should be a good pick, if you can choose it..
Nov 22, 2011, 3:41 pm
#293
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: FRA
Programs: FB Plat & DL KM, Le Club Plat, GHA Plat, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 1,591
Here is a nice overview of DL and KL economy comfort
https://www.delta.com/traveling_chec...my_comfort.jsp
btw, from December 2011 there will be EC on Dl's transcon flights and from summer on domestic flights as well. The conditions for FB member in the link above.
https://www.delta.com/traveling_chec...my_comfort.jsp
btw, from December 2011 there will be EC on Dl's transcon flights and from summer on domestic flights as well. The conditions for FB member in the link above.
Dec 2, 2011, 2:58 pm
#294
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM)
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rotterdam, NL
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Updated price list
The updated price list can be found here.
This one also includes fares for certain triangular / add-on routes.
Gajan
This one also includes fares for certain triangular / add-on routes.
Gajan
Dec 19, 2011, 9:28 am
#297
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Based on my experience when flying KL priority boarding is normally only given to Elites and Business passengers.
Jan 5, 2012, 9:37 pm
#299
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West of CLE
Programs: Delta DM/3 MM; Hertz PC; National EE; Amtrak GR; Bonvoy Silver; Via Rail Préférence
Posts: 5,384