The WestJet 737 MAX 8 thread
Jan 25, 2020, 11:16 pm
#226
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Jan 26, 2020, 7:01 am
#228
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The article is titled "The Air Canada A220 amenity all airlines should add" if you want to search for it.
Jan 26, 2020, 11:55 am
#229
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Update, resched summer 2020 YHZ-CDG, questions about baggage fees
Hi all. Saw the CBC story about the Max 8 WS grounding to end of June. Looked at my flight today (June 25-July 12 YHZ-CDG) and it was "flight not confirmed". I called the call centre, spent an hour rescheduling it. Overall itinerary not bad, considering.
Now YHZ-DUB on WS, then DUB-CDG on Aer Lingus. We booked regular economy, so no bags--BUT we have the WS RBC World Elite or whatever it is that gives us first checked bag free. WS will honour that outbound, as it's their flight.
Inbound CDG-YYZ on Air France then YYZ-YHZ on WS. They won't cover the bag on the AF segment. For four of us--that will be a chunk of change. I argued it with her but she said they weren't covering baggage on other carriers. I suggested they give us equivalent WS dollars, but that was a no-go also.
She assured me "accepting" the itinerary didn't mean I couldn't still change it. So I left it at that. But I don't intend to leave it at that.
Suggestions on how to go about getting the bags covered on our return? Honestly, outbound we probably won't check anything, but coming back is when we'll need it. (You know, wine and cheese and such!)
For others in the same situation, she said they are reaching out to people in order of the date of departure. So you may not get contacted right away, but she was fine with doing mine while I waited for her to work out the options. Other than the baggage thing, I thought she did a good job accommodating our plans under difficult circumstances.
Just checked our AF ticket and it's $96 to check a bag. So to get the same service we would've had with WS it's going to be almost $400 more.
Now YHZ-DUB on WS, then DUB-CDG on Aer Lingus. We booked regular economy, so no bags--BUT we have the WS RBC World Elite or whatever it is that gives us first checked bag free. WS will honour that outbound, as it's their flight.
Inbound CDG-YYZ on Air France then YYZ-YHZ on WS. They won't cover the bag on the AF segment. For four of us--that will be a chunk of change. I argued it with her but she said they weren't covering baggage on other carriers. I suggested they give us equivalent WS dollars, but that was a no-go also.
She assured me "accepting" the itinerary didn't mean I couldn't still change it. So I left it at that. But I don't intend to leave it at that.
Suggestions on how to go about getting the bags covered on our return? Honestly, outbound we probably won't check anything, but coming back is when we'll need it. (You know, wine and cheese and such!)
For others in the same situation, she said they are reaching out to people in order of the date of departure. So you may not get contacted right away, but she was fine with doing mine while I waited for her to work out the options. Other than the baggage thing, I thought she did a good job accommodating our plans under difficult circumstances.
Just checked our AF ticket and it's $96 to check a bag. So to get the same service we would've had with WS it's going to be almost $400 more.
Last edited by coastgirl; Jan 26, 2020 at 12:30 pm
Jan 26, 2020, 1:44 pm
#230
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Inbound CDG-YYZ on Air France then YYZ-YHZ on WS. They won't cover the bag on the AF segment. For four of us--that will be a chunk of change. I argued it with her but she said they weren't covering baggage on other carriers. I suggested they give us equivalent WS dollars, but that was a no-go also.
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Here is there details....
https://www.airfrance.co.jp/JP/en/co...-airfrance.htm
The overseas rules override the rules for any connecting flights. So if your Toronto-Halifax ticket is on the same ticket, someone in Paris should tag the bags all the way to Halifax and you should just put them on the connecting belt in Toronto without having to pay any fee.
The same should apply going to France. At check-in in Halifax, since your connecting to Air France, you should have one free bag since their free item rule overrides the domestic connecting flight.
Have a look at your ticket. If there is a column for "Pieces" and it shows 1. that is the number of pieces of luggage included with the flight.
Jan 26, 2020, 1:52 pm
#231
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Are you certain Air France is going to charge you for bags. For most overseas flights you have one checked bag per person as your free allowance.
Here is there details....
https://www.airfrance.co.jp/JP/en/co...-airfrance.htm
The overseas rules override the rules for any connecting flights. So if your Toronto-Halifax ticket is on the same ticket, someone in Paris should tag the bags all the way to Halifax and you should just put them on the connecting belt in Toronto without having to pay any fee.
Here is there details....
https://www.airfrance.co.jp/JP/en/co...-airfrance.htm
The overseas rules override the rules for any connecting flights. So if your Toronto-Halifax ticket is on the same ticket, someone in Paris should tag the bags all the way to Halifax and you should just put them on the connecting belt in Toronto without having to pay any fee.
Jan 26, 2020, 4:12 pm
#232
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- Light (with Zero checked bags)
- Standard (with One checked bag)
- Premium Economy (with Two checked bags)
Sounds like you have been booked into Light.
I would try to call WestJet and try to tell them you would view the ticket you were on as being equivalent to Standard and ask them to book you into that fare class. Not certain if it will work but likely your best bet.
Jan 26, 2020, 4:39 pm
#233
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I flew on C-GROV (the first A220 in the Air Canada fleet) from YUL to YYC on it's first day of operation. It is a quiet and well damped ride and the seats are wider in Economy, but closer together in Business due to being 2x2 in a narrower fuselage. The knee room in the standard Economy seats is about 1.5" less than on a WS 737 MAX, though, as the seat still uses the lower document pocket at 30" pitch, compared with 31" on the WS MAX and the overhead bin space per passenger is less (although better than on a A320ceo or B737 NG).
Air Canada has also broken with tradition on their narrow bodies of using cloth seats, the A220 now has leather seats, which I prefer. One other feature of the A220 I particularly like is the large windows, noticeably bigger than on the B737 or A320.
Air Canada has also broken with tradition on their narrow bodies of using cloth seats, the A220 now has leather seats, which I prefer. One other feature of the A220 I particularly like is the large windows, noticeably bigger than on the B737 or A320.
Jan 26, 2020, 8:17 pm
#234
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As Westjet and Air Canada have noted that they won't be flying the MAX until at least July now. I booked a trip to Toronto from Edmonton yesterday for early June and noticed that they still had the MAX 8 flying on one of the daily routes. When would they make the change to the schedule to note this? I'm kind of surprised they have not done this.
Jan 26, 2020, 8:24 pm
#235
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Jan 27, 2020, 9:38 am
#236
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Sharing in case that's helpful to others in a similar spot.
Jan 21, 2021, 9:28 am
#237
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Jan 21, 2021, 12:46 pm
#238
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Only 71 pax on WS115 today - 41% load factor.
On board the first flight were 71 guests including Ed Sims, WestJet President and CEO, Chris Burley, WestJet Board Chair and Chris Rauenbusch, President, CUPE Local 4070 and a member of WestJet's Inflight team. The aircraft was piloted by Captain David Colquhoun, WestJet Master Executive Council Chair, Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) and Captain Scott Wilson, Vice President WestJet Operations.
https://westjet.mediaroom.com/2021-0...MAX-to-service
WestJet returns 737 MAX to service
CALGARY, AB, Jan. 21, 2021 /CNW/ - WestJet today returned the first of its 737 MAX aircraft to passenger service with the departure of WS115 from Calgary to Vancouver. With the second 737 MAX flight, WS122, from Vancouver to Calgary departing at noon PT. B-roll and photos of today's landing at VancouverInternational Airport are available here.On board the first flight were 71 guests including Ed Sims, WestJet President and CEO, Chris Burley, WestJet Board Chair and Chris Rauenbusch, President, CUPE Local 4070 and a member of WestJet's Inflight team. The aircraft was piloted by Captain David Colquhoun, WestJet Master Executive Council Chair, Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) and Captain Scott Wilson, Vice President WestJet Operations.
https://westjet.mediaroom.com/2021-0...MAX-to-service
Jan 21, 2021, 1:25 pm
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Jan 22, 2021, 8:19 am
#240
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Only 71 pax on WS115 today - 41% load factor.
On board the first flight were 71 guests including Ed Sims, WestJet President and CEO, Chris Burley, WestJet Board Chair and Chris Rauenbusch, President, CUPE Local 4070 and a member of WestJet's Inflight team. The aircraft was piloted by Captain David Colquhoun, WestJet Master Executive Council Chair, Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) and Captain Scott Wilson, Vice President WestJet Operations.
https://westjet.mediaroom.com/2021-0...MAX-to-service
WestJet returns 737 MAX to service
CALGARY, AB, Jan. 21, 2021 /CNW/ - WestJet today returned the first of its 737 MAX aircraft to passenger service with the departure of WS115 from Calgary to Vancouver. With the second 737 MAX flight, WS122, from Vancouver to Calgary departing at noon PT. B-roll and photos of today's landing at VancouverInternational Airport are available here.On board the first flight were 71 guests including Ed Sims, WestJet President and CEO, Chris Burley, WestJet Board Chair and Chris Rauenbusch, President, CUPE Local 4070 and a member of WestJet's Inflight team. The aircraft was piloted by Captain David Colquhoun, WestJet Master Executive Council Chair, Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) and Captain Scott Wilson, Vice President WestJet Operations.
https://westjet.mediaroom.com/2021-0...MAX-to-service
