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Originally Posted by pigx5
(Post 15165209)
Soon you will get a $25 or $50 e-cert instead of the amount now.
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Originally Posted by jan_az
(Post 15162215)
OMG -this may be FT-but most people who make 1K on Segments are NOT doin it on MR's. They are doing it on 4 tiring segments going to small towns each week
Anyone who thinks it's easier (or cheaper) to get status via segments clearly has never done it. I'm at 104 EQS this year and 40% of those flights were on RJs. Requiring a higher EQS vs. EQM to acheive the same status has never made any sense to me. Domestic business flyers are the bread & butter of MP and a 20% increase in qualification is simply a kick in the teeth to UAs most loyal customers. From a revenue standpoint, which one is more valueable: A domestic segment flyer who puts in let's say 40+ round trips per year at an average of $500 per ticket ($20K total spend) vs. a 5x per year transpac flyer with an average ticket price of $1800 ($9000 total)? |
Originally Posted by bmvaughn
(Post 15160011)
I still say that the biggest erosion of benefits for renewal 1Ks is having SWU deposited once you hit 1K and having them expire 12 months later. CR-1s are bad, this is worse.
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Originally Posted by Feather Man
(Post 15165809)
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha......
Welcome to the merger world, boys and girls. I just started splitting travel between DL and CO. I have earned Platinum status on both for 2011. I can't find a reason to fly DL anymore ( have over 100,000 miles on them for 2010) and the new benies for CO make it more appealing to go for 100,000. For those of you who are looking at AA, you must have a bias towards domestic travel, South American/Caribbean travel or LHR travel. For those of us with travel to Asia and other parts of Europe, there are better programs than EXP. Those fare unlimited certs will get you to Japan, but what other 1W airline can you use those on to get you beyond Tokyo??? This is definitely a YMMV scenario |
Originally Posted by darthbimmer
(Post 15163743)
I sympathize with 1Ks who've qualified on segments in the past and are now looking at needing 120. I had year with 120 EQS of travel several years ago, and it was tough. I spent a lot of time waiting out delays sitting in terminals and on the tarmac that year.
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Originally Posted by Feather Man
(Post 15165809)
For those of you who are looking at AA, you must have a bias towards domestic travel, South American/Caribbean travel or LHR travel. For those of us with travel to Asia and other parts of Europe, there are better programs than EXP. Those fare unlimited certs will get you to Japan, but what other 1W airline can you use those on to get you beyond Tokyo??? This is definitely a YMMV scenario Finally, they sell those upgrade at check-in for few dollars and you lose your gamble. So, you may only be upgraded from Japan to other Asia destination when you pay extra. With AA, you don't need to gamble. If you don't get upgraded, you don't lose. If you get upgraded, at least you sit in front for the longest flight. |
I wrote 1K Voice this afternoon to specifically ask about the status of the Million Miler program. I will let everyone here know if I get some kind of informative response from them.
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Interesting move. I agree that for many this is acceptable, but if 10% of there too fliers decide to fly another carrier, I would think that would have a note worthy effect on United's bottom line. And if I were AA or Delta, I'd take a run at that 10% increase in there top tier fliers next year. After all, United's already lost them, you just need convince them to come to you.
If AA or Delta offered me their top tier status for next year I would give them 100% of my business. There is no company loyalty to it's customers, so I don't owe any back. I honestly think this is a real opportunity for a competitor. |
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Originally Posted by jan_az
Originally Posted by fastair
(Post 15162078)
So here is my take on the EQS thing. For people that can fly between lcc cities that ua does not, it is far too cheap to obtain status. Keys look at stl-mke. Right now there is a sale fare of $44, and a regular fare of $58. Foundering booked at those prices net UA $81.86 and $107.90 after the excise tax has been backed out. That on the sale is $20.41 per segment. Let's call it $20 as some will have discounts/certs. That is 1k on $2000 under the current program. Far too cheap for the benefits. Lccs dominate many more markets pricing today that 30, 20, or even 10 years ago. Now many short haul routes can be very expensive too, but the quick, cheap segment run to achieve valuable benefits at very cheap prices is IMHO way too easy. The revenue based program would rock, and GS in some forms fit this, but the other elite levels, in markets with LCC pricing, need to have the barriers to SWU accrual raised. This is a start in a good direction that unfortunately be bad for some high yield segment flyers.
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EPIC FAIL UA! Epic. What a load of garbage. Seriously, does anyone else think it is laughable how they roll this out? I'm willing to now go on record of "MORE TO COME" from the idiots in charge:
E+ will go 1K level will go 50% EQM fares will come Basically I'll go on record to say they will turn this into None Pass. It's not a question to me now. Once they break the "we can take it away from you and we don't care" barrier, the water is comin' through the dam! I'm already requaled for 1K next year with 150K BIS on UA. So the question becomes should I go to the dAArkside...seems their 8eVIP's good on any fare are calling my name..."Oh Jslo, here Jslo, here boy...." lol. I think Jeff Smirker and Co are going to soon see and feel the wrath of a loyal ff group spurned... AA should DEFINITELY offer some kind of 1K match deal of some kind. Watch the ticker spin and spin. |
Originally Posted by reddirt14
(Post 15166222)
Interesting move. I agree that for many this is acceptable, but if 10% of there too fliers decide to fly another carrier, I would think that would have a note worthy effect on United's bottom line. And if I were AA or Delta, I'd take a run at that 10% increase in there top tier fliers next year. After all, United's already lost them, you just need convince them to come to you.
If AA or Delta offered me their top tier status for next year I would give them 100% of my business. There is no company loyalty to it's customers, so I don't owe any back. I honestly think this is a real opportunity for a competitor. |
Originally Posted by mrswirl
(Post 15165918)
+1 ^ to this sentiment. :td::td::td: to these so called "enhancements".
Anyone who thinks it's easier (or cheaper) to get status via segments clearly has never done it. I'm at 104 EQS this year and 40% of those flights were on RJs. Requiring a higher EQS vs. EQM to acheive the same status has never made any sense to me. No one with a sane mind lives for the adventure of making 1K on segments unless they have to fly those segments for another reason. I can only guess that United is easing into 120,000 miles for 1K and this is just the start. |
Do they do any focus groups or interviews with elite members in hub cities to talk about how they might react to such changes? (They recently did this in SF about changes to first class meal service). Or is this not important to them before implementing such "enhancements?"
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No idle chat
As a "short stroke/high RPM" flyer (read: lots of EQS, not so many EQM), dissappointment is perhaps the best possible term to put on these changes.
I was already comparing alternatives before this announcement, and those alternatives are suddenly looking a lot better. I'll requalify for 1K on my last flight this year, and my flights next year may well be limited to using up what MP goodies I have left in my account. All good things must come to an end, I guess. Perhaps this is just another example of the circle of life. |
Have to agree- I huge blow for those of us who are 1K via painfully earned segments hopping around the US each week for work. This year I am over 100 EQS but only 73,000 miles because work takes me to small cities all over. It was bad enough that the ticket prices to these small places went through the roof this year. Looks like back to flying Southwest and driving more next year.
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