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zabes64 Nov 16, 2010 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 15167447)
i am looking up some W fare on UA on the route I need, it is not the cheapest, but still reasonable. as long as I can use the SWU cheaply, i am reasonably happy because DL SWUs is useless for me.

Don't be surprised when the upgrade doesn't clear, that is the problem.. I'm on an "H" fare HKG-ORD the start of January, it is booked to 9 in business, but we've been waitlisted for 2 weeks already and doubt we'll clear.

I'd rather have 4 on any fare than 6 on UAs fares because in the end you might clear 2 or 3 out of 5 times and then you've blown money on the others.

pigx5 Nov 16, 2010 11:32 pm

I heard a rumor that the boarding proirity will change too but I don't know will be CO way or UA way.

5khours Nov 16, 2010 11:35 pm


Originally Posted by pigx5 (Post 15162817)
As an international flyer, AA is better.
8 VIPs v.s. 6 SWUs.
In addition, there is no W fare requirement.
It means I don't need to gamble.

Except.

1) At 150k, it's 8 for both and more importantly

2) No lie flat seats in business on AA TPAC

JSlo Nov 16, 2010 11:38 pm


Originally Posted by BlissWorld (Post 15162826)
@:-) Here's an idea @:-)

Why don't we gather a bunch of 1Ks who are willing to switch our business to AA exclusively if they match us to executive platinum? Or at least let us do an Executive Platinum challenge?

The other Bliss and I are both 1Ks and were actually thinking about writing to AA to see if they would match us, or at least do an exec-plat challenge. We knew that AA didn't match to ex-plat but figured we'd give it a shot since there are 2 of us giving them ~250,000 miles of flying.

If there are more FT 1Ks who are willing to do the same, we might actually have a shot, because if we have enough people, it'd almost be like a small business and AA has been known to grant ex-plats to certain small businesses. @:-)

Bliss, are you going to do this? PM me if you are. I'm interested. We may have a shot with AA if we can gather enough 1K's.

Markie Nov 16, 2010 11:38 pm


Originally Posted by jchiguy1 (Post 15166171)
I wrote 1K Voice this afternoon to specifically ask about the status of the Million Miler program. I will let everyone here know if I get some kind of informative response from them.

As someone heading for 3MM to try and lock-in 1K for life I have a few observations:

- Based on the CO email I suspect 1K will be gone, and we'll all just be Premier Execs and our flown miles in a given year will determine upgrade priority. CO email says:


Effective 2012
Elite members earning 100,000 EQMs or 120 Elite Qualification Points (EQPs) or more during 2011 will have upgrade priority over lower–earning members.
- As we now get the SWU's at 100k I assume this means that 1K's for life, IF they do continue will never earn any unless they fly 100k in the past year. This effectively means there is no point earning 3MM IMHO.
- It also looks to me that if they are basing the upgrade priority on miles flown in a year, someone who flies 100k in 2010, but only 15,000 by travel date, would be behind a Prem Exec from 2010 but who had flown 20,000 miles in 2011 at flight date.

magemarq Nov 16, 2010 11:38 pm

This is aweful. I feel for the 1K's. I've made 1P for the past 3 years on my own dime. No corporate travel here. Now I'm gonna be 1P lite. The wife and I barely make 50 EQM. If E+ is gone so am I. I got lucky and bought UAL shares at $8. Probably time to cash out. I tried to read all the posts here and couldn't keep up. Every page I read, two more showed up. Shame on you United.

pigx5 Nov 16, 2010 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by 5khours (Post 15167690)
Except.

1) At 150k, it's 8 for both and more importantly

2) No lie flat seats in business on AA TPAC

1) It only shows devalue, if they want to attract people to fly more, they can just add every 25000 miles after 100K get 2 CR-1s.

2) No gambling upgrade and wasting money on W on AA.

United737522 Nov 16, 2010 11:58 pm

It's amazing how this entire board throws a temper tantrum and threatens to run off to AA. Some of the posts on here have really made me LOL.

Holy friggin cow! If they don't run a DEQM, y'all want to jump to AA. If they don't upgrade the IFE, y'all want to go to AA. If your upgrade IAD-SFO on a Friday afternoon doesn't clear, y'all want to go to AA. Seriously guys, there is a pattern here where you all throw a hissy fit if things don't go your way.

Clearly 1Ks don't utilize their CR1s, especially since UDU took effect. All you have to do is go the CC here at the end of the quarters to see this.

LIH Prem Nov 16, 2010 11:59 pm


Originally Posted by fastair (Post 15167334)

and you lost instruments for a subset of the population that is not at the top tier, as well as a different timing of those instruments.

100k - 149k is not top tier? :confused:

UAL awesome Nov 17, 2010 12:00 am

Gosh, the new Continental Airlines is sure making a bad first impression. :rolleyes:

Boghopper Nov 17, 2010 12:08 am


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 15167832)
100k - 149k is not top tier? :confused:

Nope. GS is tops.

fastair Nov 17, 2010 12:10 am


Originally Posted by LIH Prem (Post 15167832)
100k - 149k is not top tier? :confused:

Not when compared with 150,000-174,999 who get the same benies, nor the 175,000+ who get more, or GS which is the top tier.

Antipode Nov 17, 2010 12:12 am


Originally Posted by United737522 (Post 15167825)
[...]
Holy friggin cow! If they don't run a DEQM, y'all want to jump to AA. If they don't upgrade the IFE, y'all want to go to AA. If your upgrade IAD-SFO on a Friday afternoon doesn't clear, y'all want to go to AA. Seriously guys, there is a pattern here where you all throw a hissy fit if things don't go your way.
[...]

It's like threatening to go to Canada.

JSlo Nov 17, 2010 12:13 am

yup. Bummed, but turning out I was wrong about the merger. Thought maybe the best of both would survive. Not looking good. If I had wanted to fly Continental I would have. Now they are forcing me (or trying to). So far this 1K and RCC member is:
+free bud light@RCC's
-CR1's
-good UDU % (anyone else noticing lately it is tougher and tougher?)

I am not one to cry "AA"! whenever, I have been as loyal as ever UA. But I know UA when I smell it, and I know CO when I smell it. We are being suffocated with CO and it isn't going to stop. The only question is timing at this point in my mind. Soon the above list will be longer with -'s. Funny, NonePass is worse than UA MP, so in the end it will all look about the same to CO elites, with a few slight modifications. We will all be fighting battleground "unlimited waitlist" slim and no chance, paying for W fares in false hopes of using a SWU, sitting in E- when our upgrade doesn't clear, paying for premium cocktails in F....and all this as so called top tier 1K or whatever they name it. sound bad? That is all SOP@CO right now. It will feel normal to them, and we will have been CO-erced if we stay...

fastair Nov 17, 2010 12:17 am


Originally Posted by JSlo (Post 15167905)
yup. Bummed, but turning out I was wrong about the merger. Thought maybe the best of both would survive. Not looking good. If I had wanted to fly Continental I would have. Now they are forcing me (or trying to). So far this 1K and RCC member is:
+free bud light@RCC's
-CR1's
-good UDU % (anyone else noticing lately it is tougher and tougher?)

It is tougher because you now have the CO flyer in the pool who flies on UA sometimes. Before, they were not in the pool, but just got to board with *G or *S, but now, they are competing for your upgrade. I would assume that on CO, with UA's flyers now competing, it is a bit tougher than before as well. But of course if you are a CO double elite diamond platinum president, and you are ticketed on a UA flight for a change, the % of UDU on UA for you just went up from zero, likewise a GS flying on CO chances have increased.

Of course as a UA 2k, you should still trump them if you book before the UDU window.

I wonder, as a UA 2K, why do you say you get less CR1's? If you fly 200k miles on UA, you now get MORE CR1s, so this should be a "+" in your column.


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