2011 Mileage Plus and OnePass elite program developments
 

We want you to be among the first to know about today’s e-mail announcement of the Mileage Plus and OnePass elite program developments for 2011. Check out the updates here and see how the elite program updates benefit you.

In the coming year, you will begin to experience updates to your travel benefits and rewards as we integrate both frequent flyer programs. Throughout 2011, the two award-winning programs will continue to operate separately and we will roll-out a single world-class frequent flyer program in 2012.

How exactly are these changes supposed to benefit us? :confused:

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* Instead of 8 CR-1s for flying 100K EQM, now we'll get 4 for the same amount of travel.
* True, we can earn "unlimited" CR-1s by flying more...so that means to get the 8 we've gotten up to now, I need to fly 150K EQM?
* 120 Segments to qualify for 1K vs 100. How is this a "benefit"?

Let me be the first to say:

1K's have the potential to lose up to 4 CR-1's per year. And we gain NOTHING. NOTHING.

Tell me United_PR, what is in this for us?

The devaluation begins.

And no, you didn't give us any advance notice. I saw it on UAL.com before the email came. Nice way to treat loyal customers.

i was upset when i went to sleep thinking we lost 6 cr1/s yr. but i'm happy with the development. as a 1k, you only lose 4 cr1's/yr. but if you do 150k you breakeven. and if you do 200k like me, you actually gain cr1's

Hey, I wanted to be first to say that!

This is yet another sad day in what I expect to be many sad days for MP over the next year. Oh well, I'm sure that certain CO Guys are pooten in their jorts over the introduction of CR-1's. They are probably googling right now to try to figure out what a regional upgrade is!

If you folks look in the CO forum, they've posted the detalis. It looks like CR-1s are not going away. :)

120EQS????? For 1K
 

Are you serious??? I already sit on the plane for 100+ flights while other individuals can take 5 - 8 International trips and be a 1K????

Why do I that take 4 flights a week get penalized? How do I not get status? This could be a MAJOR dealbreaker!!!

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what happened to rollover eqm?

Wow...isn't this just a lovely "enhancement" to the program, with absolutely nothing good coming for 1K members. :td:

Oh and thanks for the heads up...I noticed the change on the website and here and have yet to receive any email communications from Mileage Plus regarding this change.

If this is supposed to be one of the many changes that Smisek says we'll like, I'm not going to be a happy camper.

Count me as another very unhappy 1K MM. I use my CR-1s all the time. Now you're penalizing me and you call that an improvement?

This is a HUGE devaluation for 1Ks.

What a disappointment, and how offensive to try to spin it as anything but a reduction of current benefits.

This does NOT bode well for the future.

Tim

An awful slap in the face to 1Ks. :td:

How do you come on here and dare use the word benefit? :mad:

Wrong. For flying 100K EQM, CO folks get +4 over what they had. We UA people are -4 over what we had for the same travel. :td::td:

I see your point. For some very very small percentage of 1K's, this will actually be beneficial. Of course, that assumes you can actually use your pile of CR-1's after CO starts instant upgrading all the Y fares, and then sells upgrades to first for $50.

A few of us have been saying this for months. About time that the rest of y'all catch up. Don't worry, a few CO GUYS will show up here shortly to tell us how wrong we are -- that, I can promise you!

Geniuses
 

Apparently BIS miles mean nothing anymore either (as I read it). So absolutely no incentive to fly UA metal, rather just credit to it. Poor business strategy IMHO.

So I think next year will be a 75k year for me... I guess I benefit from that?

lifetime status?

I have said repeatedly since CO/UA merger, that 1Ks will have nothing to gain from this merger. CO Plats will see more benefits since OnePass is not as generous to top tier flyers.

Unfortunately, this turned out to be true.

Yet many of you cheered for the merger, and said that I worry too much.

People, wake up.

At least I have warned this board.

+20

This really hurts. Even more than all those hours on CR2s.

I'm not heartened by the fact that there is absolutely no mention of E+ in this...

American Airlines: Now is your time to offer Executive Platinum match to 1Ks @:-)

Now MP/Onepass is a 4 tier system +GS. The 1P Platinum tier...

the 1K @ 120 EQS doesn't affect me, and quite frankly, as long as you're qualifying on segments you probably will be fine upgrade wise as 1P Platinum.

The CR-1 change is a serious problem. If its for every 25k EQM earned while 1P Plat or 1K then its fine, but as written, its 75k 100k, 125k ... which of course makes it hard to earn them in jan-april.

If the new "United" thinks 2 > 8 we are in big trouble. There is nothing on that page that is a benefit. Absolutely horrible.

Title of page (emphasis mine)
"Updates to the Mileage Plus program and how they
may benefit you."

Imagine this is beneficial to a handful of people only...

...which you can bet at 1MM will not be *G anymore, but *S (and maybe for a companion)

I have already qualified for 1K for 2011 and do not plan to fly a lot next year. With the changes that were just announced, does that mean i would need to fly 75k miles before I earn anymore CR-1s in 2011?

Dont think there's much to say to this except: DITTO.

I am guessing that there are going to be a whole lot of UA 1KMM's who are going to give a HARD, HARD look at the dAArkside.

Bad bad move, UA. :td: :td: :td:

Dave

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interesting - i read the CO announcement on ft. it makes it sound like the 3 tiers will be 25/50/75k. 1k status is gone, but there will be some additional note that we are a 100,000 flier with 75k status which gives us an improved priroirty for upgrades versus just a 75k'er. and of course ability to earn swu's.

when you read the ua site announcement, it frames it differently, though the end result is the same.

i think ua did a decent job aligning the 2 programs by changing/keeping terminology etc - creative imho

i do still see the downside for 100k fliers in that they just lost 4 CR1's - though it won't matter to me next year as i'll hit 150k, i do see this as a long term devaluation. i sent a letter to 1k voice already expressing my displeasure.

and what happened to rollover eqm???

Funny - in the CO version of this forum, they seem pretty happy about the changes. Shows just how far apart the programs were in their benefits.

Such a disappointment. 120 EQS?

I'm about to hit 1K at the end of this week with 100 EQS - at 120 EQS next year I won't make it.

Thanks UA, because of these great "benefits" I have to spend a day next week figuring out which new airline gets my business moving forward.

AA is starting to look a lot better for NYC-based folks:

* now the upgrades are the same at the 100K EQM level: 8 eVIPs = 2 CR-1s + 6 SWUs
* but EXP gets UDU on ex-JFK transcons...so you don't have to burn eVIPs
* 100 EQS to qualify vs. now 120 EQS on UACO

I'm starting to think I can live with the wedgie seats...

Way to go United :td:

Hopping over to Continental.com and found this bit:

What CO elites get with alignment: CR-1's

What CO elites lose: elite status now ends at the end of January. SWUs are now have fare basis requirements.

What UA elites get alignment: umm, donut.

What UA elites lose: 4 potential CR-1's, so far.

Should we start a chart on the comparison?

While I did get a text message about the changes on my iPhone at 0917 Chicago time, the link jumps to the main menu of United mobile app and not to the appropriate page on United.com. Switched to my laptop and opened United.com where the info is front and center for everyone to see. Really disappointed that emails didn't go out to elites in advance.

Also very disappointed that Mr. Smisek's comment that we would like what we'd see doesn't ring true. Getting less CR1s is not something I like. Yes I know if I accrue more than 150,000 EQMS I'll get at least 8 CR1s but this year as a 1K I could get those same 8 CR1s by flying 10,000 EQMs per quarter, i.e. this year I could get 8 CR1s for less EQMs then I'll need next year to get my first two!

On the plus side the higher upgrade priority for accruing 75,000 EQMs versus 50,000 EQMs is an enhancement. Perhaps that is step one towards UGs being prioritized by one's current EQM balance!

:rolleyes:Thanks for these enhancements United! They're fantastic!:rolleyes:

no, it is just alighment w/co's current tier at 75k

And so next year there will be a "1P+" and "1P-" based on 75K EQMs??? But both will be called "Premier Executive"? How confusing ...

I disagree with this...I might have 80EQS but only 45KEQM but you have 20EQS and 80K EQM why should you get the upgrade over me?