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Old Jan 22, 2012, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by Tirreg
Are there any restrictions for using SWUs on tickets issued by any other airline than LH? My ticket is on CO stock.

If 0 people are booked in F how early would you be at the airport to avoid that no meal is loaded for F?
The terms and conditions on the cert are very clear that it can be any airline's ticket stock.

Present your certificate at least three hours before departure at the airport where the departing flight is. If you can be there before the LH check in counter opens then do that. Why mess around and let some other 1k or HON beat you on the upgrade list? IME early check in often results in confirmed upgrade at check in versus sweating it out at the gate.
Originally Posted by 1kBill
LH used to load F meals in batches of 4, at least in the days before they downsized their 747 F cabins. I tried (successfully, as it turned out) to u/g FRA-LAX a few years ago and the gate agent said he had to check to make sure they had enough meals loaded and they would not load an extra batch for an upgrade. He didn't budge when I said I would take a C meal. In the end, it worked out.
In my case, FRA to ORD, I suspect there were exactly four people confirmed in F when I attempted to upgrade. Two hours was not enough layover time in FRA.

As for not loading an extra batch of meals for an upgrade, that has never been my experience. However, I have always processed C to F upgrades at xheckin when at an out station, or when connecting at FRA, at the Sen lounge (once, and in that case, I didn't get the new BP until I got to the gate) and the FCL (where I always get the BP). At out stations, some times there is an issue with meals. At BLR I was once told the captain authorized a business meal for F, but once upgraded there was more than enough F meal. For my one and so far only upgrade failure, I was told explicitly that I would have been upgraded had there been more time to load meals.

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Old Jan 22, 2012, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Congrats on getting to work!
Yes, congrats, although sadly I think these are the last few success stories we're going to hear as the new rules are implemented consistently and the older papers SWUs with the more generous upgrade rules expire.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by SFflyer123
Anybody have any luck upgrading Z fares to F with SWU's in 2012? Or is this pretty much over with UA's new policy with SWUs?
Was able to upgrade a Z fare Jan 20 with SWU that would have expired Jan 31st.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 3:29 pm
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Nice

Originally Posted by nigos
Was able to upgrade a Z fare Jan 20 with SWU that would have expired Jan 31st.
nice. I just ordered some new SWU's. let's see if they will be denied on Z fare.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 10:02 pm
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Originally Posted by 1111
If I want to use a paper SWU on SFO-MUC, can I go to the airport around 10am, when LH check-in counters are open for LH455 to FRA, and check-in and request the UG?
It turned out I was unable to try this.

For a more conventional datapoint, I checked in at the airport 3 hours before departure, and was told UG were on waitlist to be processed at gate. At 25 before scheduled departure (20 before newly-announced delayed boarding) they paged about six names, and the first three of us were all using paper SWU to UG.

I'm now 3/3, twice on LH454 and once on LH459, all within 3 hours of departure.
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Old Jan 22, 2012, 10:27 pm
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Originally Posted by 1111
It turned out I was unable to try this.

For a more conventional datapoint, I checked in at the airport 3 hours before departure, and was told UG were on waitlist to be processed at gate. At 25 before scheduled departure (20 before newly-announced delayed boarding) they paged about six names, and the first three of us were all using paper SWU to UG.

I'm now 3/3, twice on LH454 and once on LH459, all within 3 hours of departure.
Is this Y to C or C to F?
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Old Jan 23, 2012, 6:02 am
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just to complete my story

I arrived at the gate early yesterday. Lady scanned my boardingpass to let met into the gate. The machine beeped, new boardingpass was issued: 11K


So going to sin and back - no problem using my swu's in K class

I had a great weekend
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Old Jan 23, 2012, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by SFflyer123
nice. I just ordered some new SWU's. let's see if they will be denied on Z fare.
I have ones that were printed in late December which explicitly exclude Z.
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Old Jan 23, 2012, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by SFflyer123
Is this Y to C or C to F?
Y to C. (Booked in Q)
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by mre5765
FWIW, I ordered and received some paper SWUs this month and none of them list Z as not upgradeable. And these SWUs have the globe, not the tulip logo, as well as the new M+ font in yellow and blue.

The excluded fare classes on my SWUs are: L, X, I, R, N, E, S, W, ID, AD, and IP. In addition for intra-Europe, T is not valid.

Also, the SWUs all say they are transferable and valid on code shares (i.e. LH metal but marketed by other airlines). [Nothing new either].

When I get the expiration dates of my 6 2012 SWUs reset to a December 2012 expiration, I'm going to print some more for LH in the hope that Z continues to be omitted from the excluded fare class.
The two SWUs I had printed and used in December 2011 did not exclude Z fares.

The two SWUs which were to expire on 31 January 2012 and which were printed this month (January 2012), excluded Z fares.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by stanfordhokie
The two SWUs which were to expire on 31 January 2012 and which were printed this month (January 2012), excluded Z fares.
You meant: printed this month (Jan 2012) and set to expire on 31Jan 2013, right?
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by sfvoyage
You meant: printed this month (Jan 2012) and set to expire on 31Jan 2013, right?
Nope. Set to expire on 31 Jan 12. Printed around 10 Jan 12. Used for C to F on LH on 20 Jan 12.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 12:57 pm
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Another Z fare cleared

On my way back today my Z->F cleared with a SWU that would have expired Jan 31, 2012. Really nice flight - great crew again.
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Old Jan 25, 2012, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by stanfordhokie
Nope. Set to expire on 31 Jan 12. Printed around 10 Jan 12. Used for C to F on LH on 20 Jan 12.
I just realized that must be because your SWUs expire on 31 Jan 12, so the LH paper SWU vouchers are set to expire on the same date.

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Old Jan 25, 2012, 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by sfvoyage
I just realized that must be because your SWUs expire on 31 Jan 12, so the LH paper SWU vouchers are set to expire on the same date.
Indeed.
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