Dec '09 UA Security Procedures-operational changes on INTERNATIONAL flights? [Merged]
Dec 27, 2009, 7:48 pm
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Yes. I realize that it is a fluid situation but UA (and for that matter all of the carriers) could try a little harder to get reliable information out so that there would be less rampant speculation. And I dont think Twitter counts.
Dec 27, 2009, 9:03 pm
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Moderator note: FlyerTalk's Travel Safety/Security forum has an extensive discussion on new travel policies after the DL AMS->DTW flight. Please discuss there any general matters about these new rules. This thread is meant to be a discussion of specific UA situations and experiences on the new policies. Please help us keep this open by limiting the discussion to updating the UA experience or other related discussion focused specifically on UA. Thanks, the United Moderation team.
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Dec 27, 2009, 9:18 pm
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New security - in seat for last hour of flight
Flew today FRA-SFO on UA901, in F. New security measures with all pax made to stay in seat with all belongings out of reach (including pillows/blankets etc) for last hour and all cabin baggage in Ohead bins only. Purser was hoping this was a short term measure but was US law rather then UAL policy. Passengers very unhappy.
Dec 28, 2009, 12:26 am
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United's new rules: All flights will now depart for an unknown city. The windows will be covered over and all pax blindfolded, gagged and locked into their seats for the duration of the flight. No electronics, no phones, no reading, no listening, no announcements. And since food can be used as an accelerant, no food and no drinks. Welcome to the friendly skies.
Memo to the TSA: If there are no pax, there are no threats. Have you considered that?
Memo to self: Stay home. (just fly domestic, until they screw that up too.)
Memo to the TSA: If there are no pax, there are no threats. Have you considered that?
Memo to self: Stay home. (just fly domestic, until they screw that up too.)
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Dec 28, 2009, 12:38 am
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Flew today FRA-SFO on UA901, in F. New security measures with all pax made to stay in seat with all belongings out of reach (including pillows/blankets etc) for last hour and all cabin baggage in Ohead bins only. Purser was hoping this was a short term measure but was US law rather then UAL policy. Passengers very unhappy.
Thanks for the update.
Dec 28, 2009, 1:58 am
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I just have to wonder if the person who is supposed to make that call is away for the Holidays, and someone who would not normally make this call stepped up and read too much into the TSA mandate. I'm not defending UA at all in this, especially with the other carriers interpreting the policy differently. I just have to wonder if the person who made the call is not the normal person and that it will be reexamined once he is available again. The directive by the TSA was very vague and open to interpretation it seems. So MAYBE there is a logical explanation. Not saying that's the case. Just giving UA the benefit of the doubt.
That's right. They are flying 747's right now aren't they?
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Dec 28, 2009, 2:15 am
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UA837, SFO-NRT, 26 DEC 2009: United disabled the in-flight entertainment system, including overhead reading lights and flight-attendant call buttons, on this OUTBOUND flight FROM the United States. What sense did that make? Did the TSA demand that, too? (No.) I've had enough. Seriously.
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Dec 28, 2009, 2:15 am
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Dec 28, 2009, 2:28 am
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I just have to wonder if the person who made the call is not the normal person and that it will be reexamined once he is available again. The directive by the TSA was very vague and open to interpretation it seems. So MAYBE there is a logical explanation. Not saying that's the case. Just giving UA the benefit of the doubt.
Glad I'm not booked to fly anywhere on anything for 3 months!
Dec 28, 2009, 2:57 am
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One more datapoint:
UA922 daytime IAD-LHR on 12/27 - no changes at all. Full power, IFE, including map, and no "sit your butt down" silliness. ^
UA922 daytime IAD-LHR on 12/27 - no changes at all. Full power, IFE, including map, and no "sit your butt down" silliness. ^
Dec 28, 2009, 3:39 am
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Just flew 869 (SFO to HKG) 12/27. IFE and Ch 9 operational entire flight (thank goodness) and only security precaution was everyone was advised to stay in seat 1-hr prior to landing. No mention made of not accessing hand carry etc.
At least sanity prevailed on this flight and maybe security is far more strict on inbound flights.
At least sanity prevailed on this flight and maybe security is far more strict on inbound flights.
Dec 28, 2009, 3:53 am
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Just flew 869 (SFO to HKG) 12/27. IFE and Ch 9 operational entire flight (thank goodness) and only security precaution was everyone was advised to stay in seat 1-hr prior to landing. No mention made of not accessing hand carry etc.
At least sanity prevailed on this flight and maybe security is far more strict on inbound flights.
At least sanity prevailed on this flight and maybe security is far more strict on inbound flights.
Dec 28, 2009, 4:05 am
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Very good and typical United. There is no TSA directive whatsoever for outbound flights from the US, so, in typical United crew style, they simply made that staying seated part up!
Originally Posted by eightblack
Just flew 869 (SFO to HKG) 12/27. IFE and Ch 9 operational entire flight (thank goodness) and only security precaution was everyone was advised to stay in seat 1-hr prior to landing. No mention made of not accessing hand carry etc.
At least sanity prevailed on this flight and maybe security is far more strict on inbound flights.
At least sanity prevailed on this flight and maybe security is far more strict on inbound flights.
Dec 28, 2009, 4:58 am
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Took the HKG-SGN continuation of UA 869 on 12/27 that eightblack mentioned above. Crew was great, and ch.9/IFE/map were all operational. The (AFA-but-Hong Kong-based??) crew seemed to be only marginally aware of the new restrictions.