Dec '09 UA Security Procedures-operational changes on INTERNATIONAL flights? [Merged]
Dec 26, 09, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by jraindc
Is this IFE ban being dictated by the government or United? It's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Who do I direct my ire?
Dec 26, 09, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by dcsnowwake
remove IFE and UNITED becomes SWA.....no need for business class seats other than if you REALLY need to sleep...ill go over the pond in economy all the time now, upgrades worthless....yeah i know im exagerating, but this just sucks!
I cant imagine my upcoming trip, almost 33 1/2 hours in a place without some sort of entertainment....my laptop only had so much battery
I cant imagine my upcoming trip, almost 33 1/2 hours in a place without some sort of entertainment....my laptop only had so much battery
Look, the day after the liquid thing at Heathrow happened, similar things occurred. Remember when NO beverages were served on aircraft, period?
Rules were relaxed.
Once airlines get the avalanche of complaints from customers, their lobbyists and executives will be making phone calls to key people.
My guess is that Canada will be one of the first places where things will be re-examined. Quickly. Air Canada and U.S-flagged carriers will realize their influx of extra checked bags, fewer staff to move those bags, more missed connections and irate employees and passengers.
It WILL impact the bottom line of all airlines. Capitalism always trumps security. We know as well as anyone that UA, and all other carries are looking to cut costs. Adding to costs won't fly with the airlines.
Give it a few days, I'm guessing within five to seven days things will change.
Dec 26, 09, 6:02 pm
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UA statement on the web site:
Nothing about IFE, or domestic flights.
New TSA security measures
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued new security measures for all flights departing from any foreign location and traveling to the United States. This is in addition to the normal screening that all customers go through to enter secured areas. All customers should allow extra time for check-in and the boarding process and, as always, should check their flight status before departure.
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued new security measures for all flights departing from any foreign location and traveling to the United States. This is in addition to the normal screening that all customers go through to enter secured areas. All customers should allow extra time for check-in and the boarding process and, as always, should check their flight status before departure.
Dec 26, 09, 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by flyinbob
Nothing about IFE, or domestic flights.
UA potentially loses the revenue from XM if they do not play the audio.
We'll see.
Dec 26, 09, 6:14 pm
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Originally Posted by LessO2
Once airlines get the avalanche of complaints from customers, their lobbyists and executives will be making phone calls to key people.
My guess is that Canada will be one of the first places where things will be re-examined. Quickly. Air Canada and U.S-flagged carriers will realize their influx of extra checked bags, fewer staff to move those bags, more missed connections and irate employees and passengers.
It WILL impact the bottom line of all airlines. Capitalism always trumps security. We know as well as anyone that UA, and all other carries are looking to cut costs. Adding to costs won't fly with the airlines.
Give it a few days, I'm guessing within five to seven days things will change.
My guess is that Canada will be one of the first places where things will be re-examined. Quickly. Air Canada and U.S-flagged carriers will realize their influx of extra checked bags, fewer staff to move those bags, more missed connections and irate employees and passengers.
It WILL impact the bottom line of all airlines. Capitalism always trumps security. We know as well as anyone that UA, and all other carries are looking to cut costs. Adding to costs won't fly with the airlines.
Give it a few days, I'm guessing within five to seven days things will change.
I am confident all of this cr**p will be over once Business travel is full swing by mid January.
Dec 26, 09, 7:34 pm
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I can confirm the IFE nonsense is not limited to int'l flights - I just got off UA722 ORD-IAD, and the IFE was all shut down about 2 minutes before we pushed back. As we were taxiing out they came on the PA and said "you might have noticed that the IFE is inoperative - this is due to the recent security issues".
So much for my nice 763 C seat...
So much for my nice 763 C seat...
Dec 26, 09, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by UncleJed
I can confirm the IFE nonsense is not limited to int'l flights - I just got off UA722 ORD-IAD, and the IFE was all shut down about 2 minutes before we pushed back. As we were taxiing out they came on the PA and said "you might have noticed that the IFE is inoperative - this is due to the recent security issues".
So much for my nice 763 C seat...
So much for my nice 763 C seat...
At least in the US, only a handful of flights have moving maps, so there is still going to be IFE on most flights. It's the international ones (and hopefully limited to just the new configuration with Panasonic software) that are affected.
Dec 26, 09, 7:43 pm
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Inbound flights only?
Is this IFE idiocy only flights inbound to the U.S., or does it include international flights outbound? I'm flying trans-pac this week, so I'll report back, but I'm wondering if I shouldn't quickly invest in some extreme battery solutions for my laptop.
Dec 26, 09, 7:48 pm
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Is this issue only limited to United? 
I checked other forums, such as AA, Delta, USAir, JetBlue etc. and I did not see other people complain similar issue. Did TSA or United make the decision to turn off IFE? 
Polar Bear
I checked other forums, such as AA, Delta, USAir, JetBlue etc. and I did not see other people complain similar issue. Did TSA or United make the decision to turn off IFE? Polar Bear
Dec 26, 09, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by mlasser
Anyone know if books and magazines are going to be considered "lap" items that will be banned for the last hour?
This is insane, surely they can just turn AirShow off.
I though airshow is stored on a separate unit which is connected to IFE like you would with a PS3. Ive been on NZ 744/772/763/320 when the map has been disabled when its broken!
Dec 26, 09, 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by cavemanzk
I was thinking what about hard-copies of maps!
Dec 26, 09, 8:16 pm
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i flew Fra-SFo today (26th). All UA flights delayed , LH on time. .... We had no video,audio,power port for laptop (bring your own dvds), seatlamp, no invidual reading light, lights came off and on when the flight attendent wanted to be on....
Was like in prision but with nicer blankeds and pillows ;-) missed my connection by 10 min because my bag came last ...
boooked again the wrong airline....
jr
Was like in prision but with nicer blankeds and pillows ;-) missed my connection by 10 min because my bag came last ...
boooked again the wrong airline....
jr
Dec 26, 09, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by UncleJed
I can confirm the IFE nonsense is not limited to int'l flights - I just got off UA722 ORD-IAD, and the IFE was all shut down about 2 minutes before we pushed back. As we were taxiing out they came on the PA and said "you might have noticed that the IFE is inoperative - this is due to the recent security issues".
So much for my nice 763 C seat...
So much for my nice 763 C seat...
Dec 26, 09, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by juergenritz
i flew Fra-SFo today (26th). All UA flights delayed , LH on time. .... We had no video,audio,power port for laptop (bring your own dvds), seatlamp, no invidual reading light, lights came off and on when the flight attendent wanted to be on....
Was like in prision but with nicer blankeds and pillows ;-) missed my connection by 10 min because my bag came last ...
boooked again the wrong airline....
jr
Was like in prision but with nicer blankeds and pillows ;-) missed my connection by 10 min because my bag came last ...
boooked again the wrong airline....
jr
Dec 26, 09, 8:59 pm
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you are right that button didnot work as well....
JR
JR
Originally Posted by ivoryboi
Would this also disable the flight attendant call button? Is so, wouldn't that be a more serious 'security' concern?
