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The People Mover /ATS, O’Hare’s (ORD) shuttle train, to close until Fall 2019
E to C gate shuttle discountinedMCT Feb 2021 from ExpertFlyer.com
older MCT ORD MCT data - Sept 2016
Archive: Consolidated ORD connection time/logistics-Domestic & International {Archive}
E to C gate shuttle discountinedMCT Feb 2021 from ExpertFlyer.com
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STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I. ONLINE .50 1.15 1.30 1.30 OFFLINE .50 1.15 1.30 1.30 ** OR * ARE ALL UA-UA DD .45 AUA - ALL UA-UA DD .45 DUB - ALL UA-UA DD .45 FLT 3160 - 6384 - FLT 1 - 2839 NAS - ALL UA-UA DD .45 FLT 3160 - 6384 - FLT 3160 - 6384 NAS - ALL UA-UA DD .45 NAS - ALL UA-UA DD .45 SNN - ALL UA-UA DD .40 FLT 3160 - 6384 - FLT 1 - 2839 UA-UA DD .40 FLT 3160 - 6384 - FLT 3160 - 6384 UA-UA DD .35 UA-UA DI .45 AUA - ALL UA-UA DI .45 DUB - ALL UA-UA DI .45 NAS - ALL UA-UA DI .45 SNN - ALL UA-UA DI .40 UA-UA ID 1.30 GRU - ALL UA-UA ID 1.25 HKG - ALL UA-UA ID 1.25 MEX - ALL UA-UA ID 1.25 MTY - ALL UA-UA ID 1.25 PEK - ALL UA-UA ID 1.25 PVG - ALL UA-UA ID 1.25 SIN - ALL UA-UA ID 1.20 UA-UA II 1.30 GRU - ALL UA-UA II 1.25 HKG - ALL UA-UA II 1.25 MEX - ALL UA-UA II 1.25 MTY - ALL UA-UA II 1.25 PEK - ALL UA-UA II 1.25 PVG - ALL UA-UA II 1.25 SIN - ALL UA-UA II 1.20
Archive: Consolidated ORD connection time/logistics-Domestic & International {Archive}
Consolidated ORD connection time/logistics-Domestic & International
#121
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 5
You are below the Minimum Connection TIme of 90 minutes for International to Domestic connection at ORD for Icelandair to UA.
You will be hard press to make it to the UA bag checkin , 45 minutes before departure. Is the bag small enough for carry-on?
Do you have GE and/or TSA PreCheck? USA Passport?
Will move to the ORD Connections thread, for others to provide more details
You will be hard press to make it to the UA bag checkin , 45 minutes before departure. Is the bag small enough for carry-on?
Do you have GE and/or TSA PreCheck? USA Passport?
Will move to the ORD Connections thread, for others to provide more details
Thanks. I do agree with you. I have TSA, which will help slightly. I'm just going to do my best to make it. If not, I'll take a morning flight. Thanks!
Immigration, get luggage. Last passport check, customs check rarely done if you don't look suspicious. (ha). Then to UA baggage recheck, you can't miss it. Out into the terminal, up to the ATS. Just a few minutes and Terminal 1. TSA (if you're TSA Pre, follow the signs to the left). Should be achievable without issue.
Thanks a bunch! I do have TSA, which will help. I'm just going to do my best to bust my ... and get through the steps. I greatly appreciate you help! If I don't make it, I'll take a morning flight. Thanks!
Response above gives the general flow. However, as noted if you committed to using checked luggage (I would not), you'll have to check it at T1. Perhaps try adding the bag when you check in with the app, so that you can use the bag drop shortcut at T1 (counters are near the middle of all the desks).
Some other miscellaneous tips:
Good luck.
Some other miscellaneous tips:
- the train going T5 to T1 will be on the "outer" track (the one farther from the terminal);
- the T5 platform can be accessed from either side, but the T1 platform has only an escalator at the "back" of the train (in the direction of travel when going T5 to T1, southeast side of platform), so to be first up to the bridge at T1 go for the back car when boarding;
- if you haven't GE/pre status, it will be difficult to make the connection, but try using mobile passport to improve your chances of making it;
- if you do miss the flight, plead for forgiveness and see if they will rebook you on the next one (any overnight is obviously your responsibility).
Good luck.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Oct 16, 2022 at 12:06 pm Reason: merged consecutive posts by same member
#122
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SFO/SJC
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 14,891
I think my bookings here are going to make it difficult for me. I'll be flying from KEF Reykjavík into ORD Chicago on Icelandair on one booking. The current arrival time into terminal 5 at ORD is 6:20PM. I have a completely different booking on a different airline for my connection home. This is on United Airlines and will likely be departing from ORD terminal 1. My connection is very short as my terminal 1 departure is at 7:45PM. So I don't even have 90 minutes (on paper) to make it. Can someone help walk me through step-by step with what I'll be doing after I touch down in Chicago? I know I'll be going through passport control, customs, etc. But any detailed info would be awesome. After I gather my checked luggage, can I recheck it immediately with United at terminal 5 for a terminal 1 departure? Can I then take the ATS to terminal 1 efficiently? I'd love to be able to get to terminal 1 without my checked bag in hand. Anyway, if someone can graciously provide me with a detailed step-by-step instruction list to help me efficiently manage this short connection, I would be very grateful! Thanks in advance!
First, let's start with terms...you are not connecting. That would require being on the same itinerary. You are landing in Chicago, and then transferring to a different flight on a new reservation. Connection requires being on the same itinerary.
Then there are other items. Without GE, I'd make sure to do MPC if available to you. If not, customs alone is going to likely eat up a lot of time. So there's that. You may be able to check your bag at the UA transfer desk in the international terminal once you exit - I'm not sure. If you can't, you'll need to lug on train and check in in T1. This needs to be complete at 45 minutes prior to departure. So that leaves you 40 minutes. Again, is it possible - maybe? Likely? Doubt it.
Then there is the inbound flight. According to FlightStats (https://www.flightstats.com/v2/fligh...ing/FI/853/KEF) - the KEF-ORD Icelandair flight was on time 52% of the time between Aug 1 - Sept. 30. Another 22% of the time, it was either very or excessively late (I forget the exact thresholds for those, but either way if you hit either of them, you are definitely going to miss it). I personally, having spending a good portion of my travel days transiting ORD, think on the normal days, it is pretty efficient, but that all goes out the window if weather hits. Don't know when this would be, but common to have snow days/wind in the winer, and thunderstorms in summer. That may ultimately help, as domestic UA flight (I guess I'm making an assumption on the 'domestic' part) is more likely to be delayed than international inbound, but could go either way. So another factor to consider.
All in all, I would never do this - I'd leave several hours between at least on separate tickets (though these days, with lack of change fees, at least its a bit easier, but fare difference still applies). If there is no later flight than 7:45pm, I'd say relax in ORD, book at the Hilton by T2 (or another airport hotel) and go for a flight the next morning, I'm not going to sugar-coat it - this is essentially a disaster waiting to happen - could get lucky but I'd set the expectation that you are likely to miss onward flight - or checked bag cutoff.
#123
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: UA PP / DL PM
Posts: 36
FT Friends,
I need some advice / encouragement, please. I have not yet had the pleasure of transiting ORD on an international-domestic connection.
Currently booked MUC-IAH in UA P on Sunday 5/28/23. Would prefer to return on Saturday 5/27/23, but Sunday is o.k. (Memorial Day weekend.)
MUC-ORD-IAH is an option on Saturday 5/27/23 (arriving ORD at 14:05); specifically:
* MUC-ORD: UA 952 (787-9, which is would be a slight improvement on the 767-300 that operates MUC-IAH)
* Scheduled 3 hr 45 connection time
* ORD-IAH: UA 2040 (arriving later than our MUC-IAH nonstop, but it's a domestic arrival, and we would have presumably had time to visit the P lounge in ORD T1?).
We are both US citizens with GE. I expect we will have at least one checked bag. (Sigh.)
I suppose this all comes down to whether the inconvenience of the ORD connection and risk of a WX delay (or other inconvenience) at ORD is outweighed by the benefit of potentially arriving back at IAH early. (UA MP cost for MUC-IAH nonstop on Saturday is an additional ~100K miles.) My Spidey sense tells me to stick with the MUC-IAH nonstop and enjoy the extra day in Munich, but I'm wondering if I am overlooking any considerations here.
Thank you in advance and apologies if I posted this in the wrong format / forum. Still a rookie.
I need some advice / encouragement, please. I have not yet had the pleasure of transiting ORD on an international-domestic connection.
Currently booked MUC-IAH in UA P on Sunday 5/28/23. Would prefer to return on Saturday 5/27/23, but Sunday is o.k. (Memorial Day weekend.)
MUC-ORD-IAH is an option on Saturday 5/27/23 (arriving ORD at 14:05); specifically:
* MUC-ORD: UA 952 (787-9, which is would be a slight improvement on the 767-300 that operates MUC-IAH)
* Scheduled 3 hr 45 connection time
* ORD-IAH: UA 2040 (arriving later than our MUC-IAH nonstop, but it's a domestic arrival, and we would have presumably had time to visit the P lounge in ORD T1?).
We are both US citizens with GE. I expect we will have at least one checked bag. (Sigh.)
I suppose this all comes down to whether the inconvenience of the ORD connection and risk of a WX delay (or other inconvenience) at ORD is outweighed by the benefit of potentially arriving back at IAH early. (UA MP cost for MUC-IAH nonstop on Saturday is an additional ~100K miles.) My Spidey sense tells me to stick with the MUC-IAH nonstop and enjoy the extra day in Munich, but I'm wondering if I am overlooking any considerations here.
Thank you in advance and apologies if I posted this in the wrong format / forum. Still a rookie.
#124
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 11,469
MUC-ORD-IAH is a longer journey, but that particular itinerary is fine in terms of IRROPS risk. Wx not that likely Memorial Day. You can use PL both at ORD and IAH, although with checked bag you have to think a little bit about what you're doing when you get to IAH (let bag circulate and go find later? hope it arrives on earlier flight and is held for you? decent chance of that happening given long connection). You can sit together on 789 if you want; no comparable option on 763.
#125
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,129
FT Friends,
I need some advice / encouragement, please. I have not yet had the pleasure of transiting ORD on an international-domestic connection.
Currently booked MUC-IAH in UA P on Sunday 5/28/23. Would prefer to return on Saturday 5/27/23, but Sunday is o.k. (Memorial Day weekend.)
MUC-ORD-IAH is an option on Saturday 5/27/23 (arriving ORD at 14:05); specifically:
* MUC-ORD: UA 952 (787-9, which is would be a slight improvement on the 767-300 that operates MUC-IAH)
* Scheduled 3 hr 45 connection time
* ORD-IAH: UA 2040 (arriving later than our MUC-IAH nonstop, but it's a domestic arrival, and we would have presumably had time to visit the P lounge in ORD T1?).
We are both US citizens with GE. I expect we will have at least one checked bag. (Sigh.)
I suppose this all comes down to whether the inconvenience of the ORD connection and risk of a WX delay (or other inconvenience) at ORD is outweighed by the benefit of potentially arriving back at IAH early. (UA MP cost for MUC-IAH nonstop on Saturday is an additional ~100K miles.) My Spidey sense tells me to stick with the MUC-IAH nonstop and enjoy the extra day in Munich, but I'm wondering if I am overlooking any considerations here.
Thank you in advance and apologies if I posted this in the wrong format / forum. Still a rookie.
I need some advice / encouragement, please. I have not yet had the pleasure of transiting ORD on an international-domestic connection.
Currently booked MUC-IAH in UA P on Sunday 5/28/23. Would prefer to return on Saturday 5/27/23, but Sunday is o.k. (Memorial Day weekend.)
MUC-ORD-IAH is an option on Saturday 5/27/23 (arriving ORD at 14:05); specifically:
* MUC-ORD: UA 952 (787-9, which is would be a slight improvement on the 767-300 that operates MUC-IAH)
* Scheduled 3 hr 45 connection time
* ORD-IAH: UA 2040 (arriving later than our MUC-IAH nonstop, but it's a domestic arrival, and we would have presumably had time to visit the P lounge in ORD T1?).
We are both US citizens with GE. I expect we will have at least one checked bag. (Sigh.)
I suppose this all comes down to whether the inconvenience of the ORD connection and risk of a WX delay (or other inconvenience) at ORD is outweighed by the benefit of potentially arriving back at IAH early. (UA MP cost for MUC-IAH nonstop on Saturday is an additional ~100K miles.) My Spidey sense tells me to stick with the MUC-IAH nonstop and enjoy the extra day in Munich, but I'm wondering if I am overlooking any considerations here.
Thank you in advance and apologies if I posted this in the wrong format / forum. Still a rookie.
#126
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 29
Thoughts on a 55 minute connection Dom-Int?
XNA- ORD- DUB, on a Sunday next June.
In a smaller airport I would say no problem, but ORD is huge (and I haven't been there since before covid), and don't they sometimes close the doors 45 mins pre-departure on TA flights?
3 pax, economy, no status to speak of. We can run- if the bags don't make till next day we'd be ok- but we do need to make the flight.
XNA- ORD- DUB, on a Sunday next June.
In a smaller airport I would say no problem, but ORD is huge (and I haven't been there since before covid), and don't they sometimes close the doors 45 mins pre-departure on TA flights?
3 pax, economy, no status to speak of. We can run- if the bags don't make till next day we'd be ok- but we do need to make the flight.
#127
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,129
Thoughts on a 55 minute connection Dom-Int?
XNA- ORD- DUB, on a Sunday next June.
In a smaller airport I would say no problem, but ORD is huge (and I haven't been there since before covid), and don't they sometimes close the doors 45 mins pre-departure on TA flights?
3 pax, economy, no status to speak of. We can run- if the bags don't make till next day we'd be ok- but we do need to make the flight.
XNA- ORD- DUB, on a Sunday next June.
In a smaller airport I would say no problem, but ORD is huge (and I haven't been there since before covid), and don't they sometimes close the doors 45 mins pre-departure on TA flights?
3 pax, economy, no status to speak of. We can run- if the bags don't make till next day we'd be ok- but we do need to make the flight.
Question for others... Will UA put mis-connects on the EI late flight to DUB?
edit: Also keep in mind there will likely be multiple schedule changes between now and then anyway.
Last edited by JimInOhio; Oct 24, 2022 at 8:32 am Reason: additional comment
#128
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,413
Thoughts on a 55 minute connection Dom-Int?
XNA- ORD- DUB, on a Sunday next June.
In a smaller airport I would say no problem, but ORD is huge (and I haven't been there since before covid), and don't they sometimes close the doors 45 mins pre-departure on TA flights?
3 pax, economy, no status to speak of. We can run- if the bags don't make till next day we'd be ok- but we do need to make the flight.
XNA- ORD- DUB, on a Sunday next June.
In a smaller airport I would say no problem, but ORD is huge (and I haven't been there since before covid), and don't they sometimes close the doors 45 mins pre-departure on TA flights?
3 pax, economy, no status to speak of. We can run- if the bags don't make till next day we'd be ok- but we do need to make the flight.
If you need to make the flight, don't book a 55-minute connection at ORD in the summer.
This is definitely true.
#129
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,705
I'm a bit confused how to get around ORD. Havent been there in ages. Arriving on UA from GRU and need to get to a domestic flight on UA. So am I looking for this new train I read about or is it a bus? I cant even seem to figure out where in the International terminal I will find this.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#130
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,129
I'm a bit confused how to get around ORD. Havent been there in ages. Arriving on UA from GRU and need to get to a domestic flight on UA. So am I looking for this new train I read about or is it a bus? I cant even seem to figure out where in the International terminal I will find this.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#131
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: So Cal
Programs: AA Platinum
Posts: 2,705
Thanks for the help. Appreciate it. When exiting customs will I be going up an escalator since had mentioned ATS is in between the 2 levels?
#132
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: BNA
Programs: HH Gold. (Former) UA PP, DL PM, PC Plat
Posts: 8,184
There are escalators on each end of the train platform. You exit from immigration and customs to the bag recheck area. Exit the bag recheck area and either left or right to the escalator. The train ride only takes a few minutes.
#133
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SIN
Programs: Delta DM, DL MM
Posts: 230
We are looking at traveling on Lufthansa from Singapore to Munich to ORD and connecting to a UA flight to MSP. The connection time is only 2 hours and we'll have two cats with us. What are your thoughts as to whether that is enough time to clear immigration (and I think we have to go through agriculture inspection or something for our cats?) and then get from terminal 5 to terminal 2 clear security (which I believe will take longer because cats have to be taken out of their carriers and hand screened) and make our connection in terminal 2? Thanks!
#134
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA MM
Posts: 4,129
We are looking at traveling on Lufthansa from Singapore to Munich to ORD and connecting to a UA flight to MSP. The connection time is only 2 hours and we'll have two cats with us. What are your thoughts as to whether that is enough time to clear immigration (and I think we have to go through agriculture inspection or something for our cats?) and then get from terminal 5 to terminal 2 clear security (which I believe will take longer because cats have to be taken out of their carriers and hand screened) and make our connection in terminal 2? Thanks!
Have you checked with Lufthansa on their requirements? I think as long as your cats look healthy and you have your vaccination records with you (in English), it's not a big deal.
Two hours is probably fine if you're on the early Lufthansa flight. Even if you miss the connection, there are later UA flights up to about 8 PM.
#135
Join Date: May 2005
Location: SIN
Programs: Delta DM, DL MM
Posts: 230
Thanks. I haven't flown United for probably 25 years! (Being from Minneapolis, Delta is almost always the easiest choice.) I've checked with the airlines and have to have paperwork to clear the cats through Europe and a CVI and rabies vaccine certificate for the US, but I think we have to clear the cats through our port of entry in the US. (We've never done this, so I'm not sure what the procedure is.) I know that there are later flights, but don't know whether they would have "pet space" available on those flights. And, since the flight is 29 hours if we make the earlier flight, I'm not too keen on having to take a later flight. Is the tram running now? We flew Delta to ORD and connected to a Korean Air flight in January and it was a real hassle to have to stand up on a bus with our luggage. I can't imagine doing that with the cats, too.