May 22, 2024, 11:07 am
UA Crew use of OverHead Bins
May 24, 2024, 8:01 am
#76
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International flights (long haul) likely have extras. I don't fly a widebody fleet so don't know the specifics.
May 24, 2024, 12:12 pm
#77
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On long haul international flights while United might not have the minimum number of FA, they seem to have minimal. We already know at least one was cut since meal service was streamlined. And generally speaking it seems like crews for European or Asian airlines for a widebody are much bigger than when I see United crew waiting to board.
Also I’d be surprised if a crew member would be rushing to work another flight after a long haul flight. Not only would they be over their hours, but you also have potentially customs and passport control to get through.
Also I’d be surprised if a crew member would be rushing to work another flight after a long haul flight. Not only would they be over their hours, but you also have potentially customs and passport control to get through.
May 24, 2024, 2:10 pm
#79
Join Date: Nov 2004
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maybe this is a different thread, but for me, it is not the FA stuff but all the other junk - like the giant bags of extra blankets, pillows, whatever - and some of the first aid stuff - like the extra oxygen tank (ok, not going to argue about that - but maybe find someplace else to put it that makes it just as safe and accessible)
May 25, 2024, 6:55 am
#80
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: EWR, BDL
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On domestic (including short international) flights it is almost always the minimum. It's the same for all airlines. Occasionally, longer domestic flights will carry an extra. Crew scheduling will often schedule a deadheading F/A as an Extra instead of a DH. The 737s have two extra F/A jumpseats; the A319/320 has one. Don't know about the 321.
International flights (long haul) likely have extras. I don't fly a widebody fleet so don't know the specifics.
International flights (long haul) likely have extras. I don't fly a widebody fleet so don't know the specifics.
May 25, 2024, 7:03 am
#81
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Unless your name is United or Stuker, the bin is not yours. It’s shared space with your fellow pax and FAs.
on edit. You can check ownership of the bins on each flight by looking for the name on the fuselage outside, in case it doesn’t turn up on your app.
on edit. You can check ownership of the bins on each flight by looking for the name on the fuselage outside, in case it doesn’t turn up on your app.
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May 25, 2024, 11:18 am
#82
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Unless your name is United or Stuker, the bin is not yours. It’s shared space with your fellow pax and FAs, share it like the adult you are.
on edit. You can check ownership of the bins on each flight by looking for the name on the fuselage outside, in case it doesn’t turn up on your app.
on edit. You can check ownership of the bins on each flight by looking for the name on the fuselage outside, in case it doesn’t turn up on your app.
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May 27, 2024, 11:54 am
#83
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I talked to a couple of F/As, since I don't have access to their manuals.
The F/A storage locations are specified in their manuals. When the overhead bin is specified, the row above which they are to store their bag is listed.
Often, those overhead bins will be locking bins that are not available to passengers. I asked one about the purser's bag on the 319/320 and was told that their bags should go over row 10.
Widebodies are (almost?) all in closets, not overhead bins. 737s have the closet for the forward FA(s) and a locking overhead bin for the aft FAs.
When crewmembers DH, commute, or pass travel, their bags still look like crew bags in the overheads so not every crew bag belongs to the working crew.
The F/A storage locations are specified in their manuals. When the overhead bin is specified, the row above which they are to store their bag is listed.
Often, those overhead bins will be locking bins that are not available to passengers. I asked one about the purser's bag on the 319/320 and was told that their bags should go over row 10.
Widebodies are (almost?) all in closets, not overhead bins. 737s have the closet for the forward FA(s) and a locking overhead bin for the aft FAs.
When crewmembers DH, commute, or pass travel, their bags still look like crew bags in the overheads so not every crew bag belongs to the working crew.
May 28, 2024, 12:03 am
#84
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The ex-TED fleet hasn't had a closet in the forward galley since they were brought back to mainline pre-2010. The seat count on the A320 has also been the same for the past 20 years. This isn't a new issue at all.
May 28, 2024, 5:56 pm
#85
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And the seat count definitely changed when they ripped out the original cloth covered grey color seats to the Recaro slimline seats.
May 28, 2024, 8:43 pm
#86
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Apologies, the past 14 years. They were all delivered as 12/126 and refit to the current 12/138 as the TED fleet got absorbed back into the mainline in the early 2010s. They have always stayed below 150 at mainline to keep staffing at 3 FAs.
Last edited by BostonPlanesAndTrains; May 28, 2024 at 8:49 pm
