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Given all the devaluations happening, are there literally any sweet spots/value left?

Given all the devaluations happening, are there literally any sweet spots/value left?

Old May 2, 2024, 8:44 am
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88K for business partner awards, N America to Southern Africa is still a sweet spot. They are almost impossible to book which is likely why they are still available.
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Old May 2, 2024, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by escapefromphl
88K for business partner awards, N America to Southern Africa is still a sweet spot. They are almost impossible to book which is likely why they are still available.
Most of the saver J award pricing is still reasonable on a relative basis (i.e., compared to other major programs). The problem is a near-total lack of availability. To redeem for those these days typically requires a level of flexibility which I do not have.
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Old May 2, 2024, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
My redemptions the past couple years have mostly been intra-Europe LH/LX for 8k in Y.
+1 on this, though I think this one has increased to 12.5k or similar. Nothing devastating and I'll still probably redeem some miles in this way, but nowhere near the outstanding value it was at 8k.

I've also used a decent stash of miles to upgrade *A partner flights, which I've found to be a reasonable deal for the itineraries I fly.

Originally Posted by escapefromphl
88K for business partner awards, N America to Southern Africa is still a sweet spot. They are almost impossible to book which is likely why they are still available.
Meanwhile intra-Africa is 99k now.
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Old May 2, 2024, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
MileagePlus has skydived from being historically one of the best FFPs to the bottom.

Now UA is consistent in all rankings (in the bottom half of list):

customer satisfaction
on-time record
airline meals
baggage delays (and missing)
maintenance
negative press
most Max exposure (amongst the Big3)
least partner awards

I guess UA is no longer “consistently inconsistent” anymore when it comes to rankings.
Why should UA make changes when enough flyers are still sucking at the teat of its FF program; and to these loyalists it is a UA or bust for them. I don't see why any company would initiate changes when nothing is broken from its perspective.
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Old May 2, 2024, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by nygiants242
What is left as the best use of miles at this point? Upgrade + copay? Other geographies/routes? Super disappointed in UA.
Upgrade + copay is what I'll most likely be using my miles for going forward (assuming I can jump the waitlist).
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Old May 2, 2024, 1:02 pm
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Closer in domestic one ways in Coach are still out there for <13-15k one way. Nearly at the old 25k saver RT level.

Keep in mind some of these are “cardmember exclusive” discounted rates
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Old May 2, 2024, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer
Closer in domestic one ways in Coach are still out there for <13-15k one way. Nearly at the old 25k saver RT level.

Keep in mind some of these are “cardmember exclusive” discounted rates
Yes I have been seeing more of these in the past six months. Tells you how much United must be earning from these cards.
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Old May 2, 2024, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by dkc192

Meanwhile intra-Africa is 99k now.
I expect NA<->SA to double shortly to 190k each way at least…
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Old May 2, 2024, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by escapefromphl
I expect NA<->SA to double shortly to 190k each way at least…
Thank goodness we now have mileage pooling!
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Old May 2, 2024, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer
Thank goodness we now have mileage pooling!
An answer in search of a problem. 🤣
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Old May 2, 2024, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by AJNEDC
I don't see why any company would initiate changes when nothing is broken from its perspective.
Except they have initiated changes, for the worse.

Originally Posted by uastarflyer
Closer in domestic one ways in Coach are still out there for <13-15k one way.
Also occasionally a good way to accumulate additional PQFs, if needed.
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Old May 2, 2024, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer
Closer in domestic one ways in Coach are still out there for <13-15k one way. Nearly at the old 25k saver RT level.
Anyone who thinks these are a good deal should check AA and AS pricing. I'm regularly flying PHX-SFO in F for 9k AS.

Even DL offers better domestic pricing than UA.
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Old May 2, 2024, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Anyone who thinks these are a good deal should check AA and AS pricing. I'm regularly flying PHX-SFO in F for 9k AS.

Even DL offers better domestic pricing than UA.
I got 25K AA J transcon via AS, and it wasn't a phantom

Also devalued big time, but I feel AS is still relatively good, recently got South America to US in J for 50K on LATAM.

For UA and in general, don't horde your miles, as they will devalue. Earn and burn, earn and burn.

At the very least, for the earn and hold group, there is definitely more value by keeping your earnings in Chase UR, which has greater flexibility than UA miles.
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Old May 2, 2024, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Anyone who thinks these are a good deal should check AA and AS pricing. I'm regularly flying PHX-SFO in F for 9k AS.

Even DL offers better domestic pricing than UA.
I was pleased to get 3 day advance SMF-DFW on UA for 13k. UA doesn’t have a crap ton of seats out of either endpoint either.

My larger point is the historical Saver chart has been 12.5k one way and we still see this or close to it. That hasn’t been devalued to oblivion. Yet.
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Old May 2, 2024, 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Most of the saver J award pricing is still reasonable on a relative basis (i.e., compared to other major programs). The problem is a near-total lack of availability. To redeem for those these days typically requires a level of flexibility which I do not have.
Even as someone with nearly unlimited flexibility, finding 88k Saver J on a real carrier (i.e. not Ethiopian) has been a challenge. I'm really only finding stuff close in (~3 days out or so)

The unfortunate reality [across all mileage programs] is that demand vastly exceeds available supply. I can't think of any mileage program where you can login today and easily find a Saver J award to a destination of your choice. It just doesn't exist.
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