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nygiants242 May 2, 2024 3:30 am

Given all the devaluations happening, are there literally any sweet spots/value left?
 
What is left as the best use of miles at this point? Upgrade + copay? Other geographies/routes? Super disappointed in UA.

bmwe92fan May 2, 2024 3:36 am


Originally Posted by nygiants242 (Post 36204206)
What is left as the best use of miles at this point? Upgrade + copay? Other geographies/routes? Super disappointed in UA.

As a GS the ability to upgrade economy class award tickets to business class is by FAR my biggest benefit -- especially now that a roundtrip J ticket between Tokyo and NYC is 400k miles lol...

I just used 20k miles on 2 domestic roundtrip flights in Japan for my wife and I to visit family next week -- the only thing that has seemingly not changed in the past month...f

MileagePlus is now MileageMinus...

rankourabu May 2, 2024 3:55 am

If there are noone us gonna spell it out for United to fix :)

But yes the program is now almost useless

UA_Flyer May 2, 2024 4:24 am

MileagePlus has skydived from being historically one of the best FFPs to the bottom.

Now UA is consistent in all rankings (in the bottom half of list):

customer satisfaction
on-time record
airline meals
baggage delays (and missing)
maintenance
negative press
most Max exposure (amongst the Big3)
least partner awards

I guess UA is no longer “consistently inconsistent” anymore when it comes to rankings. :p

JetAway May 2, 2024 5:43 am


Originally Posted by nygiants242 (Post 36204206)
What is left as the best use of miles at this point? Upgrade + copay? Other geographies/routes? Super disappointed in UA.

Find the most aspirational trip you can take for all of your remaining miles and take that trip. Basically, clean out your account for the one thing you really want. Don't wait around for things to get better because they won't.

bmwe92fan May 2, 2024 5:45 am


Originally Posted by JetAway (Post 36204366)
Find the most aspirational trip you can take for all of your remaining miles and take that trip. Basically, clean out your account for the one thing you really want. Don't wait around for things to get better because they won't.

+1 - Earn and burn! Any time I get above 500k miles I get stressed….

tth6133 May 2, 2024 6:24 am

This is the first time in a long time that I can't decide which program is worse between MileageMinus and SkyPesos. I stopped accumulating SkyPesos a long time ago (so I don't have many DL miles), but I didn't stop accumulating UA miles until about a year ago so I still sit on a pile of UA miles. I tried to burn those miles but I didn't really want to spend 400k+ miles on a single ticket because there's a floor to how low their values can go (about 1 penny/mile for domestic UA flights).

Even though I haven't found much use for UA miles this year (other than for some intra-Japan flights on NH), I've been booking award reservations using UA miles as my backup plans, taking advantage of the ease with which to cancel such reservations. However, I've almost always ended up cancelling those reservations, as I almost inevitably found better and/or cheaper alternatives.

escapefromphl May 2, 2024 7:12 am

The 60k Aeroplan Chase signup bonus is a sweet spot. Cancel your Explorer card though to send a message.

findark May 2, 2024 7:38 am

I feel like the IN price points are still decent, at least compared to DL which is more or less pegged to revenue fares across the board.

That being said, having experienced DL, there is some zen to being able to redeem your miles at ~1.3cpm for basically any trip and know you're not missing out on a good deal since those don't exist :)

Kacee May 2, 2024 8:04 am

My redemptions the past couple years have mostly been intra-Europe LH/LX for 8k in Y. Occasionally a domestic redemption within 7 days of departure will price out over 1.5 cpp or so but those are becoming ever more rare. I've tried to redeem for long-haul J, but the saver awards are so rare have not had success with one of those for many years. I have redeemed for long-haul JN when there's nothing else available, but the value per point has been pretty low.

UA has absolutely (and deliberately) destroyed the program's value.

NJSwamplands May 2, 2024 8:06 am


Originally Posted by tth6133 (Post 36204459)
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I've been booking award reservations using UA miles as my backup plans, taking advantage of the ease with which to cancel such reservations. However, I've almost always ended up cancelling those reservations, as I almost inevitably found better and/or cheaper alternatives.

I do enjoy using UA points as a placeholder for last minute/long term one-way ticketing needs but often find better alternatives on the long term needs. If UA wants to draw traffic, be a pricing leader in one-way, long distance by ˝ the price of round trip cost.

zebranz May 2, 2024 8:08 am

Had to find a biz ticket and paying 110K miles (used to be 80?) to AKL was a deal compared to cash for a sick relative and had to go.
Even salad on flight was inedible and no pj's as 13 hours is under the 14 limit- didn;t we used to get them on this flight?
Otherwise the benefit of booking and hold and free cancel in future is nice.
However all burned now and down to 19K miles.
Have moved to OW (BA) and hope to have GGL.

halls120 May 2, 2024 8:15 am

I have successfully used my miles to book J seats on flights to Europe in the January-March timeframe, using mileage plus upgrades and able to score an upgrade at booking. That’s really just about it. The only other possible use I can see my for miles is if I want to go on a short fuse trip, there are some decent last minute deals on transAtlantic flights.

I suspect it’s only a matter of time before United removes those as well

mariol May 2, 2024 8:18 am

Australia is still the best value by far -- 100-110 in I (used to be 70, actually....) but even at a 50% devaluation in the past decade, it's still around 6 cents a mile, which I think you'd be hard pressed to find anywhere else in the system.

porciuscato May 2, 2024 8:29 am

I save mine for last-minute short-haul domestic flights, such as SEA->SFO. Sometimes, I get over .02/mile value on those.

I just booked some intra-Europe flights with Lifemiles. It took about half as much as MP. I have a United club card, but only charge United purchases on it.


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