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Originally Posted by restlessinRNO
(Post 31697053)
This of course is much less generous than previously, when one could earn 1 GPU (now 40 points) for every additional 25,000 PQM. :)
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Originally Posted by iainmc
(Post 31697095)
Originally Posted by restlessinRNO
(Post 31697053)
This of course is much less generous than previously, when one could earn 1 GPU (now 40 points) for every additional 25,000 PQM. :)
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
(Post 31697082)
Well, it depends on your spend profile, but if you were spending 24 cpPQM or higher, you are better off with the new system. Less, than you are not. Like the RDM/PQD change, those above 18 cpm were better off. Once again, the high spender wins.
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
(Post 31697175)
As a GS you will likely be better off in the PointsPlus system for earning PointsPlus vs GPUs after the 1K requirements.
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Originally Posted by restlessinRNO
(Post 31697204)
I agree, you would need to spend 24 cpPQM or above. But I think most 1K members, if they can meet the new 1K requalification requirements, will find themselves worse off. ....
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Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 31697212)
Agreed. A $9K ticket EWR-LHR will earn the equivalent of 1.5 GPU under the new system, where it would have earned only .56 GPU (14k PQM) previously. Even SFO-LHR (22k PQM, or .88 GPU) earns considerably more under the new system.
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Originally Posted by tcdtcd
(Post 31697234)
In the extreme opposite, an approx $1k W fare ORD-SFO-SIN r/t earns 0.8 GPU now, and 0.16 GPU equivalent in 2020!😱. 4 GPUs every 5 r/ts vs 1 every 6 r/ts next year.
Just what UA wants. |
Originally Posted by tcdtcd
(Post 31697234)
In the extreme opposite, an approx $1k W fare ORD-SFO-SIN r/t earns 0.8 GPU now, and 0.16 GPU equivalent in 2020!😱. 4 GPUs every 5 r/ts vs 1 every 6 r/ts next year.
Just what UA wants. |
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
(Post 31697260)
But that individual is going to have a hard time qualiflying for 1K in 2020, so it may be a moot point.
Somewhat ironic that if you use all the upgrade certificates (or points) that UA gives you for your own travel, you're likely not going to spend enough to requalify. |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 31697306)
Somewhat ironic that if you use all the upgrade certificates (or points) that UA gives you for your own travel, you're likely not going to spend enough to requalify. Of course this made my spend lower/slower, so qualifying for 1K was later than ever. Hope to use all remaining points in 2020, and move all remaining flights away from UA. |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 31697306)
It's already the case that if you fly on mostly Ws, you're not going to hit $15k PQD. And it's part of the reason many of us wind up giving most of our GPU to friends/family.
Somewhat ironic that if you use all the upgrade certificates (or points) that UA gives you for your own travel, you're likely not going to spend enough to requalify. |
Originally Posted by SS255
(Post 31697492)
My situation exactly. I’ll be extending 80 Plus Points, if allowed, or I will try to find good homes for them, if not. Which means that after I use up the GPU’s I’ll earn from this year’s travel, I’ll simply be buying the cheapest discounted longhaul business class ticket I can find. It may be on UA. It likely will be on a *A partner. Or it may be on a non-* airline that I’d be eager to try.
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Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 31697359)
This had me only barely make 1K for 2020. I flew so much in 2018, that I had a bunch of GPUs which I successfully used this year (only one to go!).
Of course this made my spend lower/slower, so qualifying for 1K was later than ever. Hope to use all remaining points in 2020, and move all remaining flights away from UA. |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 31697212)
Agreed. A $9K ticket EWR-LHR will earn the equivalent of 1.5 GPU under the new system, where it would have earned only .56 GPU (14k PQM) previously. Even SFO-LHR (22k PQM, or .88 GPU) earns considerably more under the new system.
So which is actually better? Earning points based on $ amount (fixed), or based on the old PQM - which is dependent on Fare Class and distance flown? |
Originally Posted by kittiyut
(Post 31699763)
So which is actually better? Earning points based on $ amount (fixed), or based on the old PQM - which is dependent on Fare Class and distance flown?
For flights on UA metal, or ticketed on UA, it depends upon whether or not your PQD/PQM ratio is $0.24 or higher. If it is, the new system will generate more GPUs. If it's not, the old system will. (The new system is calibrated at $0.24/PQM: if you spend at that ratio, you'd earn 1K with 100K PQM) For flights on another partner airline, ticketed on that airline, it depends upon the RDM/PQM ratio. For preferred partners, you'd need a ratio of 1.2:1 to come out even -- you'll get one GPU-equivalent for every 30K redeemable miles earned on preferred partners, not counting the Premier bonus. For non-preferred partners, you need a ratio of 1.44:1: you'll get one GPU-equivalent for every 36K redeemable miles earned on non-preferred partners. I suspect that these ratios will be very difficult to find in practice. AC P fares currently meet this description -- beyond the 18K level, you'll get one additional GPU-equivalent for every 15K miles flown on AC P fares, assuming they don't change the earning table. Previously, that would only have gotten you 22.5K PQMs, so you're coming out slightly ahead. You'd also come out ahead on AC TATL BE fares that are booked in Q, V, W, or G (??). To answer your question directly, then: I suspect a $9K RTW ticket (J?) would probably come out behind in the new system. If ticketed on UA, $9K gets you as much progress toward GPUs as 37.5K PQMs would have this year, and I suspect that most RTW J itineraries would have resulted in more than 37.5K PQMs. And if not ticketed on UA, you'd need to be in one of the small number of earning classes with a good RDM/PQM ratio to come out ahead. |
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