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Xyzzy Nov 9, 2023 3:08 pm


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 35732804)
Yeah, true. :) Unfortunately was/is too expensive.

Can't see where to remove PlusPoints online...hmmm. How do you remove PlusPoint waitlist request from a segment?

I'm not sure you can self service that sort of request. I'd call in f:Dr that.

Repooc17 Nov 9, 2023 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 35732804)
Yeah, true. :) Unfortunately was/is too expensive.

Can't see where to remove PlusPoints online...hmmm. How do you remove PlusPoint waitlist request from a segment?


Originally Posted by Xyzzy (Post 35732824)
I'm not sure you can self service that sort of request. I'd call in f:Dr that.

My account -> View upgrades

fumje Nov 9, 2023 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 35732804)
Yeah, true. :) Unfortunately was/is too expensive.

Can't see where to remove PlusPoints online...hmmm. How do you remove PlusPoint waitlist request from a segment?

As long as no segment has cleared, you can do it by removing from all (see above) and requesting anew for only the now-desired segments.

narvik Nov 9, 2023 3:31 pm

Update:
Called in. Removed all PlusPoint upgrade requests.
Waitlisted with MUA instead.

Will clear with almost 100% certainty.

Thanks for all the help and guidance, much appreciated.

Update Update:
Found where the tab is to remove the PlusPoints upgrade request.
Oddly, the PlusPoints request is still showing up there, after having removed it by calling in.
Is there usually a delay in removing the request?

Something likely went wrong along the way. "PlusPoints upgrades" is now showing "20 requested" from E to J, despite having used a MUA not PP.
Reluctant to click "Cancel Upgrade". Might have to call in again...


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Continental_Drift Nov 10, 2023 2:25 pm

Looking at the current 2023 qualifying year, I'm trying to find clarification on the extra 20 Plus Points you earn past 18,000 PQPs starting at 21,000 PQP. The rule states you earn these "once you meet the published requirements for Premier 1K status". I will qualify for 1k this year with the PQP-only threshold with about 25,000 PQP. Does this mean I get 40 extra Plus Points? 20 additional at 21,000 and another 20 at 24,000? The rule as-written contradicts itself by saying it starts at 21,000 but you earn these extra Plus Points only "once you meet" the 1k threshold. And I don't do that until after I have 24,000 PQPs.

Edit -
Uhhh moderator, I don't think you read my message. I am asking about qualifying for 1k status and the complexities in the rules about how that works and the perks you get with it - including plus points. If you read my post, and then scan through the thread I posted it in, it is fully in line with that thread - and almost answered a few times in fact, but not quite. You've now put me in this thread with a lot of super-detailed conversations about the utilization of plus points. Can you move me back to the more relevant thread about earning 2023 status I originally posted it in?
Thanks

Kmxu Nov 10, 2023 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by Continental_Drift (Post 35735106)
Looking at the current 2023 qualifying year, I'm trying to find clarification on the extra 20 Plus Points you earn past 18,000 PQPs starting at 21,000 PQP. The rule states you earn these "once you meet the published requirements for Premier 1K status". I will qualify for 1k this year with the PQP-only threshold with about 25,000 PQP. Does this mean I get 40 extra Plus Points? 20 additional at 21,000 and another 20 at 24,000? The rule as-written contradicts itself by saying it starts at 21,000 but you earn these extra Plus Points only "once you meet" the 1k threshold. And I don't do that until after I have 24,000 PQPs.
Thanks

Welcome to Flyertalk. I love your header.
I agree that the wording is confusing. I copied the relevant sentence here: "You can earn even more PlusPoints after you reach Premier 1K status. For every 3,000 Premier qualifying points (PQP) you get beyond 18,000, you’ll earn 20 more PlusPoints.*
" https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/mil...luspoints.html
My understanding is that you will get a total of 320 Pluspoints after you reach Premier 1K status. If you use the PQP threshold only, you will get this amount unless your PQP is more than 3000 above the threshold (20 additional PPs). The second sentence above is relevant to 1Ks using the PQF+PQP thresholds.That is, these 1Ks who have 54 PQFs and 21,000 PQF, additional 20 PPs will be awarded.

Continental_Drift Nov 10, 2023 5:24 pm

Thanks KMXU. That is definitely not what they have written, but it does explain why another poster on another thread was asking why his "next threshold" was showing 27,000 PQPs. Must be exactly as you say. So those who earn 1k with PQP + PQF earn an extra 20 PlusPoints at 21,000, 24,000, etc. But if you earn 1k through PQP alone, you only get the 20 extra PlusPoints at 27,000, 30,000, etc. Do I have that right?

I'm so focused on this because I have to book one more flight this year. It sounds like if I make it a silly 6 PQF trip instead of 2 PQF, and then I qualify for 1k PQP + PQF thresholds. And will earn an extra 40 PlusPoints. Right?

Lux Flyer Nov 10, 2023 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by Continental_Drift (Post 35735414)
Thanks KMXU. That is definitely not what they have written, but it does explain why another poster on another thread was asking why his "next threshold" was showing 27,000 PQPs. Must be exactly as you say. So those who earn 1k with PQP + PQF earn an extra 20 PlusPoints at 21,000, 24,000, etc. But if you earn 1k through PQP alone, you only get the 20 extra PlusPoints at 27,000, 30,000, etc. Do I have that right?

No. You'll get the 280 for hitting 1k qualifying for a total of 320 from qualifying for 1k (40 already earned from plat), and an additional 40 for having hit the 21,000 and 24,000 thresholds. If you have qualified from getting 24,000 PQPs, you should have earned a total of 360 PPs for the year.

purdue1015 Nov 12, 2023 10:36 am


Originally Posted by Kmxu (Post 35729940)
What if UA IT messes up and post your flight credit as ZK, instead of ZO?


Originally Posted by Kmxu (Post 35730053)
I was not concerned with PQP. If the flight credit is posted as ZK and 80 PPs are deducted, the screen shot may help to get back 50 PPs. The chance for this to happen is very low.

Unrelatedly, it took UA 3 days to deduct PPs from my account after the upgrade of my colleague’s flight was cleared. Both of us thought that UA would not take the PPs. We were wrong! 😟

Hi FT,



This is exactly what happened.



Booked K fare, did Day of Departure Upgrade to O, and then cleared into Polaris at T-24 after 80 Plus Points were deducted.

As we kind of talked about above…since at time of upgrade into Polaris, shouldn’t it have processed as an O-J upgrade for 30 and not 80 PP?

Similarly, my miles posted were ZK. Should it have been a ZO amount?

Then return for this leg was XN-R-J. Did cash buy up to Premium Economy immediately after booking (so not DOD), and this placed me into R fare. It took only 30 PP. No RDM were given but (obviously) base fare was award. Seems to be what I was expecting.
  1. How many Plus Points should outbound ORD FRA have cost?
  2. What fare class miles should I have been awarded?
I appreciate your insight.

Thanks all!

Lux Flyer Nov 12, 2023 10:48 am


Originally Posted by purdue1015 (Post 35739014)
Hi FT,



This is exactly what happened.



Booked K fare, did Day of Departure Upgrade to O, and then cleared into Polaris at T-24 after 80 Plus Points were deducted.

As we kind of talked about above…since at time of upgrade into Polaris, shouldn’t it have processed as an O-J upgrade for 30 and not 80 PP?

Similarly, my miles posted were ZK. Should it have been a ZO amount?

Then return for this leg was XN-R-J. Did cash buy up to Premium Economy immediately after booking (so not DOD), and this placed me into R fare. It took only 30 PP. No RDM were given but (obviously) base fare was award. Seems to be what I was expecting.
  1. How many Plus Points should outbound ORD FRA have cost?
  2. What fare class miles should I have been awarded?
I appreciate your insight.

Thanks all!

30 PlusPoints because you upgraded to O. The amount that gets deducted automatically is set at time of request when it was put into the upgrade orchestration. If the upgrade wasn‘t undone/rerequested after doing the paid buy up it still pulls the original amount and you have to ask to get the difference back.

Your miles should post based on the underlying K-fare you paid (which is based on price, not fare class). There should be a separate PQP-only entry for the DoD upgrade cost

purdue1015 Nov 12, 2023 11:46 am


Originally Posted by Lux Flyer (Post 35739044)
30 PlusPoints because you upgraded to O. The amount that gets deducted automatically is set at time of request when it was put into the upgrade orchestration. If the upgrade wasn‘t undone/rerequested after doing the paid buy up it still pulls the original amount and you have to ask to get the difference back.

Your miles should post based on the underlying K-fare you paid (which is based on price, not fare class). There should be a separate PQP-only entry for the DoD upgrade cost

Fantastic, thank you!

EDIT: How did it decide to place me into O upon DOD? Just curious. Thanks!

kb1992 Nov 12, 2023 11:50 am


Originally Posted by purdue1015 (Post 35739014)

Then return for this leg was XN-R-J. Did cash buy up to Premium Economy immediately after booking (so not DOD), and this placed me into R fare. It took only 30 PP. No RDM were given but (obviously) base fare was award. Seems to be what I was expecting.
  1. How many Plus Points should outbound ORD FRA have cost?
  2. What fare class miles should I have been awarded?


Originally Posted by Lux Flyer (Post 35739044)
30 PlusPoints because you upgraded to O. The amount that gets deducted automatically is set at time of request when it was put into the upgrade orchestration. If the upgrade wasn‘t undone/rerequested after doing the paid buy up it still pulls the original amount and you have to ask to get the difference back.

Is this the new way to get J upgrade from X/XN ticket (for non-GS pax)?

Grab the upgrade offer (if it shows up) to P+, then use 30 PP to upgrade to J?

I am curious about X/XN -> P+ upgrade cost for ORD-FRA or EWR-NRT. Is $700 reasonable or common?

Does the cash upgrade always clear to O?

purdue1015 Nov 12, 2023 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 35739218)


Is this the new way to get J upgrade from X/XN ticket (for non-GS pax)?

Grab the upgrade offer (if it shows up) to P+, then use 30 PP to upgrade to J?

I am curious about X/XN -> P+ upgrade cost for ORD-FRA or EWR-NRT. Is $700 reasonable or common?

Does the cash upgrade always clear to O?

My recent experience with cash upgrades with XN —> R, K—> O. 🤷‍♂️

Lux Flyer Nov 12, 2023 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 35739218)
Is this the new way to get J upgrade from X/XN ticket (for non-GS pax)?

It's not new, it's been discussed multiple times here and is published as being allowed.


Originally Posted by purdue1015 (Post 35739206)
EDIT: How did it decide to place me into O upon DOD? Just curious. Thanks!

No idea, usually with the buy-ups prior to check in, it's based on whatever the lowest available booking code is in the cabin as that is what appears to drive the pricing of the offer. But your price would seem really low for only "O" being available, so I'm guessing the DoD within the check in pathway use some other logic.

cfischer Nov 12, 2023 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by Lux Flyer (Post 35739673)
It's not new, it's been discussed multiple times here and is published as being allowed.

Huh, can you please post that 'publication'? It is IMO a glitch.


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