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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
(Post 35221553)
If you qualify for 2024 Plat, you'll get some PPs for that trip, but you'll be waitlisted at 1K only until January 31st, then at Plat after January 31. Your chances of clearing are about zero, regardless of extended PPs or newly-earned PPs, especially since UA isn't likely to clear upgrades for a February 24 flight until after your 1K status expires.
As for extensions, pre-pandemic, some upgrade certificates were extended as long as you attained the same status in the next year. During the pandemic, UA was extending PPs. All that's gone away - UA thinks flying habits are in the new normal.. Your options beyond the expiring PPs are using newly-earned PPs, using miles to request upgrade (same instrument weight as PPs), redeeming miles for F, or just buying F. Latter two are guaranteed. Former two are far more likely to leave you in coach than in F. |
Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
(Post 35221553)
If you qualify for 2024 Plat, you'll get some PPs for that trip, but you'll be waitlisted at 1K only until January 31st, then at Plat after January 31. Your chances of clearing are about zero, regardless of extended PPs or newly-earned PPs, especially since UA isn't likely to clear upgrades for a February 24 flight until after your 1K status expires.
As for extensions, pre-pandemic, some upgrade certificates were extended as long as you attained the same status in the next year. During the pandemic, UA was extending PPs. All that's gone away - UA thinks flying habits are in the new normal.. Your options beyond the expiring PPs are using newly-earned PPs, using miles to request upgrade (same instrument weight as PPs), redeeming miles for F, or just buying F. Latter two are guaranteed. Former two are far more likely to leave you in coach than in F. Say you have flights in July 2024 and you booked in December 2023 and applied them in 2023 but the Plus Points expire at the end of January 2024 so they haven't processed until July, by which time they've expired? I'm going to have way more expire than I can use this year then. I guess 340 Plus Points is more for people who do a lot of short domestic flights around the year instead of people who take maybe one or two international flights per year then. |
Originally Posted by frappant
(Post 35231813)
Say you have flights in July 2024 and you booked in December 2023 and applied them in 2023 but the Plus Points expire at the end of January 2024 so they haven't processed until July, by which time they've expired?
Originally Posted by frappant
(Post 35231813)
I guess 340 Plus Points is more for people who do a lot of short domestic flights around the year instead of people who take maybe one or two international flights per year then.
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Waitlisting for both premium economy and Polaris
Is it possible to waitlist for both premium economy and Polaris upgrades with PP? If so, and the premium economy upgrade clears, does the Polaris upgrade remain waitlisted?
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Originally Posted by FreFly
(Post 35232058)
Is it possible to waitlist for both premium economy and Polaris upgrades with PP? If so, and the premium economy upgrade clears, does the Polaris upgrade remain waitlisted?
However, Those with paid PremPlus will have higher waitlist priority for Polaris than you regardless of status (except GS). a Gold with paid PremPlus will be higher than a 1K with paid economy fare. |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 35231832)
IME it's become very very difficult to clear domestic flights - UA sells most of the cabin as discount P/Z fares, and then most of the remaining seats as buy-ups, leaving few or none for upgrades.
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Originally Posted by frappant
(Post 35232157)
So Plus Points have been around just a few years and they've already jumped the shark?
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Originally Posted by frappant
(Post 35232157)
So Plus Points have been around just a few years and they've already jumped the shark?
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For 2023, my own domestic PP success rate is at around 50% or so, and I too have sponsored many relatives, friends, and associates, and quite a few upgrades cleared for them while many others did not. I also sponsored DBX-EWR for 2 persons and both cleared. I am waiting for my own LAX-NRT in June, so let’s see.
Yes, YMMV. |
Originally Posted by frappant
(Post 35232157)
So Plus Points have been around just a few years and they've already jumped the shark?
There are a few issues at play. Passenger counts are increasing faster than available seat miles, so load factors are increasing and there is more competition for upgrades. UA isn't opening as much upgrade space in advance as they did as recently as 2019. But, most importantly, UA has learned to price F in a way that people are buying it. In many cases, it's easier to clear PlusPoints on international routes than it is on domestic routes; intercontinental business class pricing isn't using the fixed-differential-from-economy approach that has filled those seats domestically. |
I've been locked at 300 PP since early February. I apply them to all of my domestic economy bookings, and none have cleared in over three months. It's definitely worse than it was a year ago. I can't even recall last time I saw open PZ domestic.
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I was at 400 PP at the beginning of the year, and I am now at 220 PP with 130 already applied & requested but not yet cleared!
So, the PlusPoints CAN BE USED! Just don't expect your upgrades to clear "easily" like in the good old days :D |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 35232909)
I've been locked at 300 PP since early February. I apply them to all of my domestic economy bookings, and none have cleared in over three months. It's definitely worse than it was a year ago. I can't even recall last time I saw open PZ domestic.
I haven't used PPs domestically, as my CPU rate has been quite good this year. (20/28 -- 71% -- counting one Y->PN after IRROPS). I have seen occasional PZ space close-in, but generally only on flights where my CPUs would clear anyway. |
Re: FAQ, it says:
Q: My PlusPoints ares still valid/unexpired, but my journey starts after the PlusPoints expires. Can I use them for that journey? A: No. I have PP expiring 7/31/23. Does this mean they cannot be applied to flights on or after 8/1/23? Even if PZ space is available today? If answer is yes, they can be applied to post-expiry flights, what about where PZ space is not available? Would they waitlist per normal, and then fall off on date of expiry if they hadn't cleared by then? |
Originally Posted by marks88
(Post 35233281)
I have PP expiring 7/31/23. Does this mean they cannot be applied to flights on or after 8/1/23? Even if PZ space is available today?
Originally Posted by marks88
(Post 35233281)
If answer is yes, they can be applied to post-expiry flights, what about where PZ space is not available?
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