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The way of the Dodo? - 1K upgrades, PP or CPU

Old Apr 27, 2022, 8:20 pm
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Originally Posted by kb1992
IME, Flights to Florida, Mexico etc. are easier to get CPU since most F pax are not business people.

Try SFO/LAX-ORD/BOS/IAD...... Often GS won't clear upgrades!
This has been my experience as well, even though I'm just a Silver. I've had multiple flights clear both into and ex-FL. MCO-IAD and TPA-LAX.
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Luckily, they didn't get PPs, so that's the way to clamber over them (as application of your PPs showed). As I've said before, UA should have prioritized those who earned over extendees for upgrades w/i each Premier level.
Dunno, I applied PPs on SFO-PHX last week and it moved me up . . . . one place on the upgrade list. Did turn out to be significant though, since it moved me into the top two, which meant I cleared during the T-24 sweep rather than having to sweat to the gate (which is usually a fail IME).
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 8:47 pm
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Bought up to P fare tonight instead of hoping PP would clear.

UA is winning.
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 10:09 pm
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Sure, there are many extended 1K & GS. But I think what are affecting upgrades most are cheap FCM offers. Dont forget that UA has started to hold out more than usual giving up too many seats at upgrade window.

Last month, waiting for UA to open PN space for an Instant Upgrade fare one time on SLC-ORD, I caved and bought the bloody upfare when such was close to their TOD upgrade offer.
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by MatthewLAX
Bought up to P fare tonight instead of hoping PP would clear.

UA is winning.
Give in to the Dark Side, Matthew.

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Old Apr 27, 2022, 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Starbase 1K
Sure, there are many extended 1K & GS. But I think what are affecting upgrades most are cheap FCM offers. Don’t forget that UA has started to hold out more than usual giving up too many seats at upgrade window.

Last month, waiting for UA to open PN space for an “Instant Upgrade” fare one time on SLC-ORD, I caved and bought the bloody upfare when such was close to their TOD upgrade offer.
Right, it's not just the (relatively) cheap F fares, it's that UA has learned to provoke panic upgrade buying by not clearing upgrades until inside T-24, and pax have correspondingly learned to recognize the signs of a doomed-to-fail upgrade, and to buy up before the cabin books full.
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 10:20 pm
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Definitely route and time specific. I was IAD-BNA on a Monday evening, and there was 15 out of 16 seats available. UA did not clear anyone until 22 hours from the flight departure time, and as a Platinum I was cleared with the group of 12 (I was #10), with rest of the seats cleared at the gate.
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 10:36 pm
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CPUs don’t clear often for GS’s either. I think I am 1/20 over the past two years on CPU opportunities. In 2013/2014 I was 98/100 on CPU opportunities as a GS, for comparison. PP upgrades almost never clear when waitlisted either. Fortunately I often have enough flexibility to book flights where they can be cleared at booking, but when I can’t do that I don’t expect to be sitting in F unless I pay for it. Whether I pay depends on the cost. I will pay $200 extra for a four hour flight, but I won’t pay $400 for a two hour flight. I will fly coach or take Southwest for those.
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 10:37 pm
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I cleared as a fake silver on an XN ticket 3 weeks ago :P Granted the flight was 6 hours delayed and left at 3 AM!
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 11:11 pm
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Fewer flights + fewer seats + minimal clearing before t-24 (panic buying) + TPAC still virtually closed + focus on domestic travel as business and leisure travel sees pent up demand = WFBF. UA wins across the board. I'm sitting on 1,000 + PP's and haven't cleared a WL all year.
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 11:33 pm
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Originally Posted by MatthewLAX
Bought up to P fare tonight instead of hoping PP would clear.

UA is winning.
Getting the ragu polenta would make it a clean sweep victory
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Old Apr 27, 2022, 11:41 pm
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CPUs dont clear often for GSs either. I think I am 1/20 over the past two years on CPU opportunities.
Wait, really? I'm a lowly plat and I'm 2/2 this year. BNA-IAH-PHX.

I will fly coach or take Southwest for those.
There's no reason to put yourself through that.
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Old Apr 28, 2022, 12:06 am
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Originally Posted by MatthewLAX
Bought up to P fare tonight instead of hoping PP would clear.

UA is winning.
This is the bottom line, in every sense of the phrase (ebitda, the crux of the matter, butts in seats).
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Old Apr 28, 2022, 5:39 am
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The really issue for me is not the domestic CPUs not clearing, it is the fact that if I apply the PlusPoonts, and please note I have always used my Plus Points (and before that GPUs) every year that I am not given the option to pay for the pointy end once I have applied the Plus Points.

But as others have said WFBF.

And like others i am happy to fly Southwest for many domestic flights.
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Old Apr 28, 2022, 6:26 am
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One factor for domestic upgrades may be found in an article I saw (I think in the WSJ) that during the pandemic, people who were traveling a little less were using the extra money they had to buy F. I think that was definitely true in my case, and I continue to buy a lot of my domestic travel in F. And sometimes a last minute paid upgrade (sorry).

But I am not interested in paying more than $3K or so for a TATL business class RT, especially on UA. If I can't use PP to upgrade on international, they are really not worth very much to me, and I am not likely to buy on UA. They are just too expensive and not high quality. Not when I can buy PE on BA and upgrade to business for miles at booking for $2700 or so, or even get an AF Affaires award for 55K miles one way. I'd even appreciate a STW opportunity to use up my PPs, but I never see one.

It will be interesting to see if, on some of the direct UA flights the same day as my next award flights on OAL, UA releases PZ a few days or so before. Especially since those flights are currently showing only about 1/3 full in Polaris 4 weeks out.
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