The way of the Dodo? - 1K upgrades, PP or CPU
It's pretty crazy...was flying LAX-ORD on 789 and I was 19/40 on upgrade list. Too many 1Ks!
I knew I would not clear so I applied PP and jumped up to #3 (and did clear). Also missed a CPU on LAX-SFO-MSY on a L fare (left at #1 from SFO-MSY, but #14 from LAX-SFO) and DEN-LAX, L fare (I was around #9 on the list) |
Originally Posted by MatthewLAX
(Post 34199500)
It's pretty crazy...was flying LAX-ORD on 789 and I was 19/40 on upgrade list. Too many 1Ks!
I knew I would not clear so I applied PP and jumped up to #3 (and did clear). Also missed a CPU on LAX-SFO-MSY on a L fare (left at #1 from SFO-MSY, but #14 from LAX-SFO) and DEN-LAX, L fare (I was around #9 on the list) As for LAX/SFO, I think that route just doesn't do CPU. I think the front cabin demand isn't really matched to UA's fleet allocation. Since even early 2021, GS would be lucky to clear. |
Originally Posted by fumje
(Post 34199546)
That makes me think rather there are too many +P out there, and people are throwing them at everything (guilty).....
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Originally Posted by MatthewLAX
(Post 34199500)
It's pretty crazy...was flying LAX-ORD on 789 and I was 19/40 on upgrade list. Too many 1Ks!
I knew I would not clear so I applied PP and jumped up to #3 (and did clear). |
Originally Posted by fumje
(Post 34199546)
As for LAX/SFO, I think that route just doesn't do CPU. I think the front cabin demand isn't really matched to UA's fleet allocation.
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Originally Posted by fumje
(Post 34199546)
That makes me think rather there are too many +P out there, and people are throwing them at everything (guilty).
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Using PPs on domestic routing seems to be in vogue these days
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Originally Posted by Flying Machine
(Post 34200723)
Using PPs on domestic routing seems to be in vogue these days
Used to be UA would opened R (PZ) fairly regularly so you could confirm in advance. It also used to be possible to check actual bookings on a given flight and thus make a reasonable assessment of upgrade odds. Those days are gone. |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 34199861)
UA's also selling F cabin cheaper than the competition, leaving very few seats for upgrades. On my regular route (SFO-PHX) F is often hundreds less than AA or AS, both of which have raised their fares back to pre-pandemic levels. For a flight 10 days out, I just paid $214 for F on UA, while AA was over $360 and AS over $400.
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The way of the Dodo - 1K upgrades, PP or CPU
I know, people are back flying, lots of miles being blown etc. etc. lower numbers of flights, pilot and FA shortages, yada, yada yada, but my upgrade rate as an organic 1K this year has been truly atrocious. I've twice missed when trying to apply PP's on long-haul international flights with an A ticket, even when booked months out. Not a single of my 6 YBM instant upgrades every showed availability for a booked Y fare and not a single, not one, nada, zip CPU upgrade in 16 segments and 8k PQP's. And the domestic PP misses were not traditionally 'hard' upgrades. For instance for a Tuesday PDX-ORD-PHL, I died at #1 with PP applied. Another flight was a Wednesday AM IAD-DEN-PDX. I died at #3 on the first segment and #4 on the second. This is a trend I am not enjoying....
And no, unfortunately I am not in a position to ask my employer to change their company-wide travel policy and pay for domestic first or international business. |
Originally Posted by Tim Fountain
(Post 34202130)
I know, people are back flying, lots of miles being blown etc. etc. lower numbers of flights, pilot and FA shortages, yada, yada yada, but my upgrade rate as an organic 1K this year has been truly atrocious. I've twice missed when trying to apply PP's on long-haul international flights with an A ticket, even when booked months out. Not a single of my 6 YBM instant upgrades every showed availability for a booked Y fare and not a single, not one, nada, zip CPU upgrade in 16 segments and 8k PQP's. And the domestic PP misses were not traditionally 'hard' upgrades. For instance for a Tuesday PDX-ORD-PHL, I died at #1 with PP applied. Another flight was a Wednesday AM IAD-DEN-PDX. I died at #3 on the first segment and #4 on the second. This is a trend I am not enjoying....
And no, unfortunately I am not in a position to ask my employer to change their company-wide travel policy and pay for domestic first or international business. Corporate travel departments should be made aware that UGs just don't happen anymore and perhaps give you the option of discount F domestically, which is cheap on UA these days (my average cost for a transcon in F is around $1,500-). For example, my next flight, EWR-LAX in PS is $1,845- where Y is $3,058-. And, even though a Z-fare isn't refundable, it is changeable for no charge, and a $1,200- savings seems like a good motivation to change the corporate travel policy. |
As someone who's part of the WFBF crowd, sorry.
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And meanwhile, we cleared CPU as Gold last week. It's about your choice of routes.
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Originally Posted by MatthewLAX
(Post 34199500)
...Too many 1Ks!...
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I agree with all of this - on a midday DEN-CLE on a 737.... as a 1K who applied PP+, I was 9th on the list and I think maybe 2 open seats a week in advance.....
there were 9 1k's and 3 GS on that flight although my PP DEN-OGG got me 2 true polaris heading out...... |
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