Premium Economy to Hawaii to launch in May 2021 - PlusPoints Now Required to Upgrade
Mar 26, 2021, 1:11 am
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I just cant see UA putting the high J 767 to Hawaii from Chicago. Not enough coach seats for, as much as I would love all those J seats, they need more Y seats. I see 787 in the future for ORD-Hawaii
Mar 26, 2021, 6:25 am
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Mar 26, 2021, 6:30 am
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Mar 26, 2021, 8:47 am
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My question is when do we expect these changes to load into the system? I see some of them for International routes but not the Hawaii routes yet.
Mar 26, 2021, 9:08 am
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I saw another article that indicates these routes are going to 787s which is a nice upgrade especially if refurbished with PE
My question is when do we expect these changes to load into the system? I see some of them for International routes but not the Hawaii routes yet.
My question is when do we expect these changes to load into the system? I see some of them for International routes but not the Hawaii routes yet.
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Mar 26, 2021, 10:20 am
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Provides 21 more better-than-economy-seats to sell. With the entry of WN to Hawaii, there’s no shortage of economy seats to Hawaii - I wonder if UA is aiming for a higher percentage of non-“cheap seat” customers. UA can still route economy customers through West coast, where AK, WN, HA are pretty competitive and have been siphoning UA customers through the years - UA has capacity on those plane for economy connectors from east of there.
Mar 26, 2021, 11:26 am
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Provides 21 more better-than-economy-seats to sell. With the entry of WN to Hawaii, there’s no shortage of economy seats to Hawaii - I wonder if UA is aiming for a higher percentage of non-“cheap seat” customers. UA can still route economy customers through West coast, where AK, WN, HA are pretty competitive and have been siphoning UA customers through the years - UA has capacity on those plane for economy connectors from east of there.
It's domestic leisure travel, and Hawaii is pretty much top of that list.
Mar 26, 2021, 11:29 am
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Hawaii had roughly 250,000 tourists in February - and while their is a Spring Break/Stimulus Check Bounce right now, it isn't anywhere near the 900,000+ monthly we had pre-Covid. My flight earlier this week cleared nearly every upgrade to the Silver level - and even after they cleared 30+ standbys had empty seats from SFO-HNL. No point in flooding capacity if the demand doesn't pan out and just sell not profitable cheap seats.
Mar 26, 2021, 11:48 am
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Hawaii had roughly 250,000 tourists in February - and while their is a Spring Break/Stimulus Check Bounce right now, it isn't anywhere near the 900,000+ monthly we had pre-Covid. My flight earlier this week cleared nearly every upgrade to the Silver level - and even after they cleared 30+ standbys had empty seats from SFO-HNL. No point in flooding capacity if the demand doesn't pan out and just sell not profitable cheap seats.
Mar 26, 2021, 12:02 pm
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Mar 26, 2021, 2:17 pm
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This story paints a bleak picture for all islands
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Mar 26, 2021, 2:31 pm
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Fair enough. I seem to recall on other threads that they generally load the weekend (or two) after an announcement. Also, given how soon these commence I would assume they want to upload to the system as soon as possible. I guess we'll see.
Mar 26, 2021, 2:38 pm
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Yeah - UA can attract more customers with PE seats this summer with “monied” tourists who can’t get overseas. The problem down the road for increased capacity at the economy seat level is accommodation capacity of Hawaii. When tourist numbers reach pre-pandemic level, Hawaii really won’t have “cheap” accommodations for those who need a deal on airfare just to get to Hawaii. Hawaii is not building accommodations that keep up with flight capacity. I think UA is smart to look at the higher $ vacationer. Hawaii has even said flat out that they want a “higher quality” tourist - not necessarily someone who looks to save $25 on a bag flying WN