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Old May 12, 2020, 2:04 pm
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https://www.unitedcargo.com/
Widebody Schedule May 5-11-20
cargo-only flights are listed

12 May 2020
Originally Posted by EWR764
UA cargo-only service for May listed by hub with return flights mostly deleted (cargo-only sections in 27XX/28XX flight number range):

EWR-BOM 2830 77W 3x
EWR-FRA 2798 77W/787 3x
EWR-SFO 2730 77W 1x

GUM-LAX 2797 77W/787 Daily (operating PVG-LAX-GUM)
GUM-PVG 2778 77W Daily
GUM-SFO 2849 77W 3x (operating TPE-GUM-SFO)
GUM-TPE 2847 77W 3x

HKG-SIN 2861 77W/787 3x

IAD-BRU 2792 787 3x
IAD-DUB 2816 787 3x
IAD-NRT 2863 787 Daily
IAD-SJU 2810 77W 1x

IAH-AMS 2786 77W 2x
IAH-FRA 2788 77W 3x
IAH-SCL 2790 787 2x

LAX-FRA 2796 77W 3x
LAX-GUM 2765 77W Daily (operating LAX-GUM-PVG)
LAX-HKG 2852 77W Daily
LAX-HKG 2774 77W Daily
LAX-LHR 2800 787 2x
LAX-SYD 2812 787 4x

NRT-CTU 2801 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2845 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2822 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2836 787 4x
NRT-PVG 2808 787 Daily
NRT-PVG 2850 787 Daily

ORD-AMS 2810 787 2x
ORD-BRU 2841 787 Daily
ORD-FRA 2776 77W 3x
ORD-HKG 2865 77W Daily
ORD-LHR 2806 787 2x
ORD-NRT 2820 787 Daily
ORD-NRT 2821 787 Daily
ORD-SFO 2853 77W 1x
ORD-ZRH 2782 787 3x

SFO-AMS 2768 77W 3x
SFO-FRA 2780 77W 2x
SFO-GUM 2846 77W 3x
SFO-HKG 2861 77W/787 3x
SFO-ICN 2832 787 3x
SFO-MEL 2854 1x
SFO-NRT 2826 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2834 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2835 787 4x
SFO-SYD 2812 787 3x

All 777 flights are 77W, 787s are EQV, all series, but mostly 789.

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Old May 24, 2020, 11:42 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
27xx flight numbers are used for charter flights.
Either that or special cargo-only services during this time of depressed passenger demand.
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Old May 25, 2020, 1:41 am
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Over the past week, there have been four 789 roundtrips as UA 2769 SFO-TLV, and the returning as UA2770 TLV-SFO
Non-revenue flights, almost certainly cargo runs (at least 15 RTs in past two months
5 hour turns at TLV

update: list as a cargo run in Widebody Schedule May 5-18-20
Note there are frequent EWR-TLV cargo flights also
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Old May 25, 2020, 6:33 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Over the past week, there have been four 789 roundtrips as UA 2769 SFO-TLV, and the returning as UA2770 TLV-SFO
Non-revenue flights, almost certainly cargo runs (at least 15 RTs in past two months
5 hour turns at TLV

update: list as a cargo run in Widebody Schedule May 5-18-20
Note there are frequent EWR-TLV cargo flights also
And these flights are not bookable?
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Old May 25, 2020, 9:16 am
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Originally Posted by yonajon
And these flights are not bookable?
They are not bookable for passenger service. Some cargo may be in the passenger cabins and there are no flight attendants, and there are other changes from passenger flights.
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Old May 25, 2020, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
They are not bookable for passenger service. Some cargo may be in the passenger cabins and there are no flight attendants, and there are other changes from passenger flights
Why is there even a need for flight attendants on cargo-only planes? It comes down to safety. While cargo holds have sophisticated detectors in case any cargo catches fire, in the passenger cabin the systems work differently, since they’re not generally designed for cargo.
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So this is a safety decision to be sure that the cargo can be transported safely in the cabin.

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Old May 29, 2020, 6:20 pm
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Why The Daily Flight LAX to GUM?
That use to originate in IAH to HNL to GUM to HK. Is this a freight run? I'd be surprised if there is that much military transaction between LAX and GUM.
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Old May 29, 2020, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by TEBraniff
That use to originate in IAH to HNL to GUM to HK. Is this a freight run? I'd be surprised if there is that much military transaction between LAX and GUM.
It is a freight run. The aircraft continues on to PVG.
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Old May 29, 2020, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by bigsaabowski
It is a freight run. The aircraft continues on to PVG.
https://www.unitedcargo.com/ShowFile...s/Widebody.pdf
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Old May 29, 2020, 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by TEBraniff
Why The Daily Flight LAX to GUM?.
UA27xx / UA28xx generally are cargo-related flights
from United cargo




GUM is as operating as a Asia Pacific cargo hub
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Old Jun 22, 2020, 11:48 pm
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Lots of Guam west coast flights lately
I’ve noticed on flight radar a lot of ua flights from and to GUM. Cargo I assume. Any ideas about these. 787 and 777 aircraft
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Old Jun 24, 2020, 11:12 am
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I noticed a 789 doing a IAH-AMS-IAH cargo run last week and thereafter doing a regular pax flight.
The quick turnaround (cargo>pax) was impressive. I imagine the pax area was not used for cargo, such as boxes
piled on seats in this case.
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Old Jun 24, 2020, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
I noticed a 789 doing a IAH-AMS-IAH cargo run last week. ...
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Old Jul 22, 2020, 1:13 am
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I don’t know why UA doesn’t just use every widebody at their disposal for cargo. At this point that is where the bread is being buttered and they have more widebodies than anyone.
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Old Jul 22, 2020, 6:06 am
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I don’t know why UA doesn’t just use every widebody at their disposal for cargo. At this point that is where the bread is being buttered and they have more widebodies than anyone.
Pretty sure they are doing this with every opportunity they can find.
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Old Jul 22, 2020, 6:51 am
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I don’t know why UA doesn’t just use every widebody at their disposal for cargo. At this point that is where the bread is being buttered and they have more widebodies than anyone.
United is flying the crap out of its 787s and 777-300ERs right now for cargo service, with incremental pax where possible. This won't last forever, but cargo revenue is up 36% year over year and comprised about 27% of United's operating revenues in the quarter, compared to around 2.5% in Q2 last year. It's pretty remarkable...

By comparison, Delta's cargo revenue actually declined in the quarter (yoy), to about $100m; only around 6% of operating revenue (~1.5% normally). This is one area where United is really excelling.
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