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Old May 12, 2020, 2:04 pm
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https://www.unitedcargo.com/
Widebody Schedule May 5-11-20
cargo-only flights are listed

12 May 2020
Originally Posted by EWR764
UA cargo-only service for May listed by hub with return flights mostly deleted (cargo-only sections in 27XX/28XX flight number range):

EWR-BOM 2830 77W 3x
EWR-FRA 2798 77W/787 3x
EWR-SFO 2730 77W 1x

GUM-LAX 2797 77W/787 Daily (operating PVG-LAX-GUM)
GUM-PVG 2778 77W Daily
GUM-SFO 2849 77W 3x (operating TPE-GUM-SFO)
GUM-TPE 2847 77W 3x

HKG-SIN 2861 77W/787 3x

IAD-BRU 2792 787 3x
IAD-DUB 2816 787 3x
IAD-NRT 2863 787 Daily
IAD-SJU 2810 77W 1x

IAH-AMS 2786 77W 2x
IAH-FRA 2788 77W 3x
IAH-SCL 2790 787 2x

LAX-FRA 2796 77W 3x
LAX-GUM 2765 77W Daily (operating LAX-GUM-PVG)
LAX-HKG 2852 77W Daily
LAX-HKG 2774 77W Daily
LAX-LHR 2800 787 2x
LAX-SYD 2812 787 4x

NRT-CTU 2801 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2845 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2822 787 Daily
NRT-PEK 2836 787 4x
NRT-PVG 2808 787 Daily
NRT-PVG 2850 787 Daily

ORD-AMS 2810 787 2x
ORD-BRU 2841 787 Daily
ORD-FRA 2776 77W 3x
ORD-HKG 2865 77W Daily
ORD-LHR 2806 787 2x
ORD-NRT 2820 787 Daily
ORD-NRT 2821 787 Daily
ORD-SFO 2853 77W 1x
ORD-ZRH 2782 787 3x

SFO-AMS 2768 77W 3x
SFO-FRA 2780 77W 2x
SFO-GUM 2846 77W 3x
SFO-HKG 2861 77W/787 3x
SFO-ICN 2832 787 3x
SFO-MEL 2854 1x
SFO-NRT 2826 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2834 787 Daily
SFO-NRT 2835 787 4x
SFO-SYD 2812 787 3x

All 777 flights are 77W, 787s are EQV, all series, but mostly 789.

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Old May 8, 2020, 11:34 am
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Appears part of regular LAX-GUM-PVG routing, LAX-GUM-PVG as ferry (UA27xx) returning from PVG with cargo (UA28xx)

connecting via GUM allows for easier turn in PVG

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N35953
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Old May 8, 2020, 1:25 pm
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UA has received permission to use overhead bins and closets in the passenger cabin to carry cargo.

Cargo compartments have fire suppression systems and passenger cabins do not, so if cargo is loaded into passenger cabin - there will be 4 FAs if the flight is a wide body and 2 FAs if it's a narrow body. These flights have not started yet.
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Originally Posted by SFOcrew
UA has received permission to use overhead bins and closets in the passenger cabin to carry cargo.

Cargo compartments have fire suppression systems and passenger cabins do not, so if cargo is loaded into passenger cabin - there will be 4 FAs if the flight is a wide body and 2 FAs if it's a narrow body. These flights have not started yet.
Well, there goes self loading cargo

It must pay well. Guess I should have know that since UA sold so many of their 752s to FedEx (IIRC) due to fuel efficiency. Apparently a different business model.
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Old May 12, 2020, 2:07 pm
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Widebody Schedule May 5-11-20
70-80% are cargo only flights
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Old May 12, 2020, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by winecountryua
widebody schedule may 5-11-20
70-80% are cargo only flights
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Old May 12, 2020, 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Bear96
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Typo? The SIN-HKG flights also don’t have the Cargo-Only.
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Old May 12, 2020, 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Bear96
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25xx are charter flights, sports team commonly in normal times, military likely given ELP
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Old May 12, 2020, 5:43 pm
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Well, there goes self loading cargo

It must pay well. Guess I should have know that since UA sold so many of their 752s to FedEx (IIRC) due to fuel efficiency. Apparently a different business model.
That was Smisek being a fire sale to get quick cash. There was no reason to part ways those 752s (as of that point) especially when DL was keeping theirs. Heck, they UA kept their ERJs over them. You would think they would've done it reverse.
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Originally Posted by LAX_AUS_DL_FLYER
That was Smisek being a fire sale to get quick cash. There was no reason to part ways those 752s (as of that point) especially when DL was keeping theirs. Heck, they UA kept their ERJs over them. You would think they would've done it reverse.
Smisek = smallball. Kirby has picked up the mantle

Im guessing the cargo only fades after July 1
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Old May 14, 2020, 1:02 pm
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ORD-ZRH-ORD is operating on a 787-10 cargo 3x/week. Flight numbers UA 2782/2783.
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Old May 14, 2020, 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
ORD-ZRH-ORD is operating on a 787-10 cargo 3x/week. Flight numbers UA 2782/2783.
There are about a 12 dozens regular cargo runs from ORD, about half to Europe and the rest split between domestic and Asia
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Widebody Schedule May 5-11-20
70-80% are cargo only flights
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Old May 16, 2020, 6:00 pm
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There are about a 12 dozens regular cargo runs from ORD, about half to Europe and the rest split between domestic and Asia
Thanks for referring to the cargo-link.
There are actually the following cargo flights to Europe: destination / weekly r/t frequency:
EWR- FRA /3
LAX - FRA /3, LHR/2
IAD - BRU /3 , DUB /3
IAH - AMS /2, FRA/3
ORD: FRA/4, LHR/2, ZRH/3
SFO: AMS/3, FRA/2

Makes for a total of 33 cargo roundtrips to Europe per week.
While I am not an airfreight expert at all, it would be interesting to get an idea how much the load & revenue on average per flight is.
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Old May 24, 2020, 11:28 pm
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UA 2769 on May 23
Hello folks,

I randomly noticed that SFO-TLV flew last night as UA 2769 (typically it is 954). This direct isn’t bookable until July 6 and the seat map shows that the flight was basically empty. Anyone know how this flight came to be?

I’m trying to assess if it’ll be available starting on July 6 according to the schedule (or maybe sooner) and this is one potential clue.

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Old May 24, 2020, 11:39 pm
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Originally Posted by yonajon
Hello folks,

I randomly noticed that SFO-TLV flew last night as UA 2769 (typically it is 954). This direct isn’t bookable until July 6 and the seat map shows that the flight was basically empty. Anyone know how this flight came to be?

I’m trying to assess if it’ll be available starting on July 6 according to the schedule (or maybe sooner) and this is one potential clue.

TIA
27xx flight numbers are used for charter flights. I wouldn't read anything into the availability of a regular flight on the same route.
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